200NL - AA in blindvblind

skegvegaspoker · #1 02-26-2007, 12:59 PM

So we always get our stack in right? Right?

Villain is a massive calling station, and certainly a loser at 200NL. 35/10/1.08/2k and WTSD/W$SD 36/48!

Seems obvious to get it in, but I'm hating the turn raise. What you guys think?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP ($334.70)
Button ($382.05)
Hero ($424.17)
BB ($191.25)
UTG ($198.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
3 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $7, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BB calls $14.

Turn: ($44) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $32, BB raises to $80, Hero pushes?

AMT · #2 02-26-2007, 01:05 PM

with your read id have to get it in here.

Andruin · #3 02-26-2007, 01:07 PM

I think you get alot of players who think they are trapcalling you with their K on the flop and whant to rap it in on the turn. Of course you can be behind here against a set or 2 pair but as the BB is relatively short stacked against you I would call and get it allin on the river unless another K hits [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

A push is also ok but I like to get a fold option here in case the K doubles up.

ManChild · #4 02-26-2007, 01:10 PM

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A push is also ok but I like to get a fold option here in case the K doubles up.

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aka - im scared to get it in w/o the nuts, so i wait until the river to make any money?

thats a ridiculous reason to not want to get it in here.

Andruin · #5 02-26-2007, 01:48 PM

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A push is also ok but I like to get a fold option here in case the K doubles up.

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aka - im scared to get it in w/o the nuts, so i wait until the river to make any money?

thats a ridiculous reason to not want to get it in here.

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Absolutely not. I think the chance to get his stack in is much better on the river. If you go all in here only hands that beat you call except maybe AK.
You don't really think a weak K will call an allin here? If he is that kind of an idiot he will sure as hell call the river bet.

At this point I also have to consider that I have 2 outs to win here. I think cutting on losses is also a valid way to make money.

HoldEmNewby · #6 02-26-2007, 02:00 PM

push is good.

drewvy · #7 02-26-2007, 02:04 PM

his range is MUCH bigger than KJ or a set so a push IMO is fine here..KQ/AK will call quite often as will KXh...we have outs (though sometimes only 2) against every holding villain may have

Jay Riall · #8 02-26-2007, 02:10 PM

Meh turn shove ad fold are both ok. I prob fold because I no longer doubt Baluga, like ever.

skegvegaspoker · #9 02-26-2007, 02:20 PM

BvB surely everyone re-raises AK preflop? Baluga? Sorry for my ignorance.

ManChild · #10 02-26-2007, 02:24 PM

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A push is also ok but I like to get a fold option here in case the K doubles up.

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aka - im scared to get it in w/o the nuts, so i wait until the river to make any money?

thats a ridiculous reason to not want to get it in here.

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Absolutely not. I think the chance to get his stack in is much better on the river. If you go all in here only hands that beat you call except maybe AK.
You don't really think a weak K will call an allin here? If he is that kind of an idiot he will sure as hell call the river bet.

At this point I also have to consider that I have 2 outs to win here. I think cutting on losses is also a valid way to make money.

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okay, well that makes more sense - i agree with you here. i guess i misinterperted what you said before, it sounded more like "i put him on a king, so i want to wait and make sure he doesnt get trips so i dont get badbeat"

nh