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Old 02-25-2007, 11:39 PM
Don Key E37 Don Key E37 is offline
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Default 200NL ak suited flop flush draw and brick turn now what?

I was really guessing on this turn card. Preflop and flop are standard im sure, but the turn I thought was real tough and I felt super weak playing like I did. Villin is like 32/10/.78 so not very aggressive. He limped and called so I pretty much put ruled out qq and 55 is unlikley, but 77 if definelty possible. I really don't think he pots a full house on the turn though. I put him on like QJ suited or something and just wasn't sure I could get him off it. I checked the turn thinking if he bet weak I could either call or c/r all in. And I hate committing my stack here on turn if I bet and he raises, cause then I have to go with it and I might be drawing dead. Felt super weak folding, but I just didn't see me c/r all in getting him to fold on the turn. With his pot bet I thought he was saying he was going to showdown and I folded like a little girl. Can anybody give me a better line? Thanks again.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $86.05
UTG+1: $213.30
CO: $183.55
Button: $66.70
Hero: $333
BB: $44.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls $2 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $3)</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $9</font>, BB folds, CO calls $7 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $12)</font>.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($20, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls $16 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $36)</font>.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($52, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $46</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $46 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $52
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: 200NL ak suited flop flush draw and brick turn now what?

Im firing at this again...looks like you got floated.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: 200NL ak suited flop flush draw and brick turn now what?

lead turn
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:44 AM
Montezuma21 Montezuma21 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL ak suited flop flush draw and brick turn now what?

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Im firing at this again...looks like you got floated.

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if this is the case, wouldn't a CRAI be the best course of action to trap dead money into the pot? it might also have the advantage of folding out a weak Q that might have called a turn bet.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: 200NL ak suited flop flush draw and brick turn now what?

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Im firing at this again...looks like you got floated.

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if this is the case, wouldn't a CRAI be the best course of action to trap dead money into the pot? it might also have the advantage of folding out a weak Q that might have called a turn bet.

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no.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: 200NL ak suited flop flush draw and brick turn now what?

c/r ai is okay every now and then. i much prefer firing though.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:48 AM
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c/r ai is okay every now and then. i much prefer firing though.

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would you mind explaining why?
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: 200NL ak suited flop flush draw and brick turn now what?

We might be able to get better hands to fold alot here, but by checking the villian might not be folding to a reraise after committing more money to the pot.
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:11 AM
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We might be able to get better hands to fold alot here, but by checking the villian might not be folding to a reraise after committing more money to the pot.

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you're saying he'll be pot committed to call? he's got another $111 behind, i don't think he's ever calling with less than TPTK here, and even that is doubtful. no?
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Old 02-26-2007, 01:42 AM
DirteAA DirteAA is offline
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Default Re: 200NL ak suited flop flush draw and brick turn now what?

ok, so if we lead turn what do we do if he pushes?

I would have raised to $12. I hate being oop w/ AK. At least make em pay to limp/call with atc.

I hate these spots. He probably limped in w/ some mediocre holding, like QJ or QT, and pot bets it after we check, blah. It's great when you have them crushed in this situation and crai after they pot bet it lol.
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