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Old 02-25-2007, 02:03 PM
wpr101 wpr101 is offline
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Default $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

This look okay? I didn't bet turn because i thought he wouldn't call me often without a five. Also figured a psb on the river might look like a bluff?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($777.30)
CO ($154)
Button ($150.70)
SB ($367.25)
BB ($520.70)
wpr101 ($394)

Preflop: wpr101 is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">wpr101 raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $16, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">wpr101 bets $36</font>, Button folds, BB calls $36.

Turn: ($122) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, wpr101 checks.

River: ($122) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">wpr101 bets $109</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $468.7</font>, wpr101 calls $233 (All-In).

Final Pot: $932.70
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

I don't know who you are/your image but with my history against him not betting that turn is absolutely terrible.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

Why? I don't see how it can be "terrible".
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

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Why? I don't see how it can be "horrible".

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with my history against him not betting that turn is absolutely terrible.

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read buddy cmon,
if he views you as a nit then this hand is played absolutely fine.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

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Why? I don't see how it can be "horrible".

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with my history against him not betting that turn is absolutely terrible.

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read buddy cmon,
if he views you as a nit then this hand is played absolutely fine.

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How would I know when you don't explain?
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

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Why? I don't see how it can be "horrible".

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with my history against him not betting that turn is absolutely terrible.

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read buddy cmon,
if he views you as a nit then this hand is played absolutely fine.

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How would I know when you don't explain?

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because I'm clearly implying that we have very agressive history against each other, I shouldn't have to explain that.
I'm just wondering what his read of you is, whats your playing style?
if you don't have that nitty history and you have not made light calldowns against him in the past then you played your hand well IMO, I think he turned a marginal hand into a bluff here but it depends on how he views you.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

I proably playing around 18/13. I have him at 14.5/11 over 300ish hands. No real history other than that.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

Dunno, Gogol is pretty tight postflop from my experience, he might have whiffed the turn with top set/555 and thinks u hit that queen on the river. Not sure if I could fold though in the moment.

Also I think a value bet on the river is better than a bluffy looking bet. What do you bet here when you are bluffing? Do you make a huge bet here on the river?
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

I'm not saying u shouldn't call... it appears to be a CRAI bluff on the river... However, your pot size control on this hand is terrible. It's not a hand I would want to stack off with on the river. What's your purpose with your river bet? Is it a value bet? And if so, what are you expecting to be called with that you beat? I don't know your opponent. I play with some people who, because of your turn check, will think their medium pp is good and play it the same as your vil. That's the beauty of MSNL. But against decent MSNL players, I want to keep the pot small and not have to be put to the test. So, I woulda bet the turn and checked the river.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: $400 NL AA hand vs. Gogol\'s Nose

I put you AQ KQ JJ AA and KK. Have fun.
Edit: also QQ.
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