AA gross turn (but it's not even 50 BBs vs. a donk)

[jamiezig]

Villian is running a cool 49/17/.88 over 120 hands. He and a few others have been having a limpfest. Note stack size.

Full Tilt Poker
$2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (BB): $505.9
UTG: $382.30
MP: $215.10
CO: $400
BTN: $238.80
SB: $458

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP calls $4, CO folds, BTN calls $4, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, MP calls $14, BTN calls $14

<font color="black">Flop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($56, 3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $41</font>, MP folds, BTN calls $41

<font color="black">Turn:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($138, 2 players)

Hero?

[terp]

more preflop/more flop

[tagtastic]

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Exactly my thoughts. The more money that goes in early here, the easier this hand becomes on later streets (ie: super easy push on the turn if he has less left).

My personal favorite move is the shortstack donk who calls a very large bet or two early in the hand, then folds for his remaining stack on the turn or river, despite getting like a zillion to 1 odds. It's like they were thinking "omg I got a draw CALL AND HIT", they miss and then wonder why I bet so small on the river.. then look at their stack.. "oh".

[jamiezig]

yeah, my bet sizing is bad here. so if i made it 22 pre (which i usually would) and say $60 on the flop he still has a PSB....do you push turn for a PSB?

[tagtastic]

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yeah, my bet sizing is bad here. so if i made it 22 pre (which i usually would) and say $60 on the flop he still has a PSB....do you push turn for a PSB?

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I'd probably want to make it a little more than that in both spots too.. like $24-28 and full pot on the flop. He's left with even less, and then yeah I push the turn for PSB or less.

Bad spot, but I pay off shorties here alot, seems worth it in the long run because most are so bad. You'll be protecting against a club draw here sometimes, you'll get called with worse hands here sometimes, and you'll suck out on 2pr here sometimes.

At least you'll get to play against a full stack if he wins [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (Assuming he doesn't insta-leave.. oh wait, that's always).

[EgoSlasher]

I don't see a significant impact in betting 55 as opposed to 41.

[Hindsight2020]

your bet sizing is really bad

think ahead

[jamiezig]

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yeah, my bet sizing is bad here. so if i made it 22 pre (which i usually would) and say $60 on the flop he still has a PSB....do you push turn for a PSB?

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I'd probably want to make it a little more than that in both spots too.. like $24-28 and full pot on the flop. He's left with even less, and then yeah I push the turn for PSB or less.

Bad spot, but I pay off shorties here alot, seems worth it in the long run because most are so bad. You'll be protecting against a club draw here sometimes, you'll get called with worse hands here sometimes, and you'll suck out on 2pr here sometimes.

At least you'll get to play against a full stack if he wins [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (Assuming he doesn't insta-leave.. oh wait, that's always).

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lol hit n run shorties.

i see why OOP I might want to make it $24-28 sometimes, but w/AA, standard $22 w/2 limpers seems fine to me. if i go to $24-28 it's likely I end up with the same problem. (if only 1 of 2 limpers comes along for the ride i'm basically right back where we are right now in terms of pot size and stacks, no?)