Minraised by TAG in RR Pot with KK

[chcheers]

Villian is 22/14/4. He hasn't gotten out of line. Neither have I.

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Hero ($519)
SB ($435.30)
BB ($688.15)
UTG ($597.85)
MP ($400)
CO ($347.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $36.

Flop: ($110) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $64</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $128</font>, Hero calls $64.

Turn: ($366) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $200</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $566

Fold flop? Push turn? Played fine?

[lapoker17]

push turn.

[luckychewy]

i woulda shoved flop, i woulda shoved turn given you didn't shove flop. too easy for him to be overplaying a smaller pair. or have a big draw of sorts.

[Pasterbator]

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OMG push turn.

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FYP

[Reef]

folding is bad

[chcheers]

Well it looks like a butchered this one. Let me explain my thought process so someone can show me where I'm wrong.

I put him on a pretty narrow range when he called the pf reraise. He has to think my 3-betting standards are fairly tight vs his UTG raising range (which they are). So maybe he calls with 99+, AK, maybe AQs or something silly like JTs. That flop is pretty safe, yet he check/minraises. There aren't many draws on the he could have given his narrow range, and if he had one, I'd expect him to bomb the flop. Also, I don't see hands like QQ-TT pulling this little reraising stunt too often, but they might. Once I call the flop raise, he probably thinks he has little fold equity on the turn, yet bets it anyway. I would expect him to give up here with JJ/TT a lot.

That's what I was thinking at the time. Maybe I'm overanalyzing the situation, or putting villian on too narrow a range.

[Jinx]

so you put him on exactly 99? I'd have 3 bet flop but yeah at least push turn.

[chcheers]

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so you put him on exactly 99? I'd have 3 bet flop but yeah at least push turn.

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No I put him on AA [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

But assuming I never folded, why is it better to 3-bet the flop in position, than just call and push the turn?

[KingGordy]

I would just shove the flop. If he shows up with an 8 in a reraised pot whatever. 99 or AA is just a cooler. As played shove turn.

[Jinx]

depends what you put him on. Because if a diamond falls you could second guess yourself into folding, or push anyways and be drawing to 4 outs if he has AK diamonds. Of if he does have a very poorly played TT-QQ an A or K might fall and he'd shut down.