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Old 02-22-2007, 02:21 PM
mindflayer mindflayer is offline
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Default James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

I watched the 3rd Quarter of the PPT on TV and at the shocase table was James Woods.

Background
He has a genius IQ.
He is the shortstack at the table.
Average stack 40k
Big Stack about 100k
James Woods about 5k.

The action is late in the round and
is close to making the dinner break.

James is dealt AQo in late position.
Early postion raises..
MP (rock) goes all in.
James Woods.. jokingly says let me give the amateur
read of this hand. He gives his read AS IF the
cards are turned FACE UP and then folds his AQ!
(all in raiser had AK)
I think to myself .. man this guy is a super genius.
Brag for JW.


Then I think back a few hands earlier
(I did not see the entire hand so i might be slightly off)
James Woods Holds 84o in the BB
an early position player limps in with 33
the small blind calls with K2 and
Woods checks.
The flops comes JT2,
check, check, check
turn Blank (middle card)
check, check, check
river 4
check, check, check,

There is about 5.5k in the pot
33 says I got a pair...
Small blind says how big is your pair and turns over K2 for pair of 2's
33 says I can beat that...
Woods MUCKS HIS WINNING HAND!

BEAT for JW.

Variance
James makes it to the Dinner break in the final 40 or so
poker professional ahead of 100 other pro's, But he is down to under 2k in his stack. (end of show)
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:25 PM
TyFuji TyFuji is offline
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

... Uhhh....


It takes a genius to fold AQ pre?
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:30 PM
JohnAndersen JohnAndersen is offline
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

didnt this happen 8 years ago?
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:33 PM
BowToYourSensei BowToYourSensei is offline
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

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Old 02-22-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

James Woods is the biggest Donk on the circuit. I'd put my money on Jennifer Tilly before him.
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:40 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

What were his pot odds?

Folding AQ to AK is only correct if he was getting bad odds. I'm not sure what the blinds/antes were but it sounds like he might have been getting 3 to 1 on his money, in which case calling would still be correct with AQ vs AK. Considering your opponent may have a hand you fair better against (like JJ) then getting 3 to 1 should be an instacall.

I don't remember this hand so his fold very well might have been correct.

Long story short, folding AQ to AK isn't always 100% good, it depends on the pot odds.
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

i remember seeing that, it was funny because he was playing so tight folding every hand then he finally gets a decent hand and folds anyway (albeit correctly)

also, the MP who opened the pot was dan harrignton, so his tight image probably weighed on his decision, thinking he might be up against QQ+
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

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What were his pot odds?

Folding AQ to AK is only correct if he was getting bad odds. I'm not sure what the blinds/antes were but it sounds like he might have been getting 3 to 1 on his money, in which case calling would still be correct with AQ vs AK. Considering your opponent may have a hand you fair better against (like JJ) then getting 3 to 1 should be an instacall.

I don't remember this hand so his fold very well might have been correct.

Long story short, folding AQ to AK isn't always 100% good, it depends on the pot odds.

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Where do you get that he might be getting 3:1? He's not in the BB, he's in Late Position with no money in the pot. Only way he would be getting 3:1 is if he had significantly less than the amount than MP had.


But as a side note, I remember watching the 2003 WSOP in the fall after the tourney and being so amazed when I saw Howard Lederer fold Ace Queen suited preflop (I was probably most mesmerized by the suited aspect back then). I even saw another Asian player fold Ace-King preflop -- both Lederer and the Asian player were beat, so I briefly considered them the two best players in the world. Lol, noob.
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

also, he's got a giant dong
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Old 02-22-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: James Woods.. Genius or Donkey??

I thought Lederer was against Paul Darden's A-10?
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