Puzzling river play

Nilzor · #1 02-20-2007, 04:36 PM

10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Button is LAG player who in addition is getting tired of me - I've won the last 3 duels against him.

Haven't payed special attention to BB, but he hasn't done anything remarkable the 30 minutes I've sat with him.

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, Button calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (18.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

What the f..k is he checking here??? This move actually paralyzed me in such a way that I timed out on another semi-tricky decision on another table.

danzasmack · #2 02-20-2007, 04:37 PM

K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

Scary_Tiger · #3 02-20-2007, 04:42 PM

Cap turn just call if he leads river. 66 is the only hand that beats you and who knows what sort of crazy draws he's 3-betting on the turn for "equity" threeway.

And obviously river is an easy value bet.

MarkD · #4 02-20-2007, 04:48 PM

I think opening with 22 in MP is a losing play.

I think the turn is an easy cap, but would call if BB lead into me on the river after I capped the turn.

As played you have a super easy value bet, or if you are especially tricky and know the button really well you could c/r everyone but I really think this is wrong because he has to bet A LOT to make C/R'ing better than just betting for value.

danzasmack · #5 02-20-2007, 04:49 PM

omg i didn't see there was another guy in the hand.

I thought not capping the turn was a mistake before, now i think it's a big mistake.

Victor · #6 02-20-2007, 04:52 PM

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I think opening with 22 in MP is a losing play.
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hero is co i think. i usually dont open in the hijack/mp but i think its close enough that it makes money in some spots.

MarkD · #7 02-20-2007, 04:59 PM

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I think opening with 22 in MP is a losing play.
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hero is co i think. i usually dont open in the hijack/mp but i think its close enough that it makes money in some spots.

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You are right, he is CO. I don't open 22 in CO either. I don't play the hand very well and limit it to button opens.

I don't have a very big database but are you making money with 22 and 33 in CO opens? Button opens?

JDalla · #8 02-20-2007, 05:31 PM

The BB could be really donking it up with 45 and going for the river checkraise. Or he could have a random kings up and fear the river. Or he could have 66 and just be scared of AA.

What did he have, I'm curious.

Victor · #9 02-20-2007, 05:44 PM

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I don't have a very big database but are you making money with 22 and 33 in CO opens? Button opens?
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im losing a tad on the button with 22 but making up for it in the co. im winnin with 33+ in co and button.

sweetjazz · #10 02-20-2007, 05:58 PM

For this year, I am +0.39 BB/hand OTB with 33 (playing it 81% of the time), while I am -0.42 BB/hand OTB with 22 (playing it 83% of the time). In the CO, I am +0.03 BB/hand with 33 (playing it 62% of the time), while I am -0.23 BB/hand in the CO with 22 (playing it 54% of the time).

Overall, I am an impressive -0.18 BB/hand with 22, making it an equal loser with 72o, and slightly worse than J3o.