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Old 02-20-2007, 02:54 PM
Mal_Pais Mal_Pais is offline
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Default NL10 - Strong Draw In Unraised Pot Against 2 Shorties

I've been fairly active. Shorty in the BB has reraised all-in a few times when I raised preflop. UTG is a station. The price looks right for playing this hand passively. The Button is loose passive and I'd like to get in the hand with him, hence the limp. Comments on all streets (well, except for the river) welcome.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.45
UTG+1: $19.50
Hero: $10.60
Button: $9.25
SB: $8.80
BB: $3.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.35, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $0.4</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.55, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $0.4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.8</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3.95, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $0.5</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $0.5 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $3.95
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Strong Draw In Unraised Pot Against 2 Shorties

Raise somewhere, please.
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Strong Draw In Unraised Pot Against 2 Shorties

Why would I raise the turn??
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Strong Draw In Unraised Pot Against 2 Shorties

I was thinking you need to raise PF as well to fish out a AT+ or get heads up with a KX hand. Then if you got a draw to go with it then more power to ya. On the turn you're a little better than 3:1 to get your flush or high pair. You're not getting those pot odds so I would fold the turn.
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Strong Draw In Unraised Pot Against 2 Shorties

Thanks, Roll. I was wondering whether I should have raised preflop or raised the flop. I have a nice 12-outer, I don't think the A will help me, and I seem to be getting a good price to hang around if BB calls the turn minraise, which I suspect he will. I don't think I have any fold equity with these two, though.
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Strong Draw In Unraised Pot Against 2 Shorties

You have a gutshot, 1 over (probably good) and the nutflushdraw.

Raise flop and get it all in there because you are a huge favorite vs 2 limpers and you do have plenty of fold equity.

Also you should have raised it preflop, so when you don't hit you can take it down with a c-bet.

With one over, flushdraw and gutshot you have the odds to call the turn, especially with the implied odds. But you still have BB to act behind you, and he was the first raiser, so when he shoves you have to fold.

Btw. I never said you should raise the turn, raise somewhere [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Strong Draw In Unraised Pot Against 2 Shorties

That's the type of analysis I was looking for. The turn call seemed to be a no-brainer, but I'm always open to different lines. I'm stacking UTG if the draw hits; I suspect he has two pair since he just woke up here. I guess I was looking for comments on how to play preflop and the flop here. Thanks.
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Strong Draw In Unraised Pot Against 2 Shorties

Ah, yeah. Didn't even see the gutshot. So a little over 2-1 odds.
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