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Old 02-20-2007, 12:58 PM
AshleyC AshleyC is offline
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Default HU 200BB pot with middle set?


I am fairly new to Omaha, I was playing in this game for a while, when the table broke and I was left HU against this very loose-aggressive player. He had been playing at 75 / 35, although we had been playing short-handed. By this hand I had 200 BB's and he had me covered. He had pretty much been running me over HU and from hands that had been showndown had seemed to be willing to call very light. I had been waiting for a hand to play back with.

I'm pretty happy with my play here but do acknowledge that getting in 200BBs without top set on this board in a 3 bet pre-flop pot may be marginal as KKK could be a very likley holding.

Comments on all streets would be much appreciated.

Hand #39417346-15521 at Warren
(Pot Limit Omaha)
Started at 18/Feb/07 12:39:35
jschmidt is at seat 1 with $65 .03.
wondlof is at seat 3 with $51 .04.
The button is at seat 1.
jschmidt posts the small blind of $.10.
wondlof posts the big blind of $.25.
jschmidt: -- -- -- --
wondlof: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Pre-flop: jschmidt raises to $.75.
wondlof re-raises to $2.25.
jschmidt re-raises to $6.75.
wondlof calls.

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

CHECK wondlof
jschmidt bets $6.50.
wondlof raisesto $33.
jschmidt calls.

Turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
wondlof goes all-in for $11.29.
jschmidt calls.
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

I think pre-flop was good. You have a 2 big pair with straight/flush possibilities. 3 betting is fine.

Flop is basically where all the money went in. You have middle set, unless you can put him on KKxx with 90% certainty- you gotta get it all in the middle because that is a drawy board. He could easily have something like AAJT. I probably never lay this down unless I had an excellent read. I think you played this standard and correctly.
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

You have to get it in. It was 3bet pf. Tough luck if you're up against kings. Shouldn't two sets beat one set anyway though?
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

This is fine
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

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I think pre-flop was good. You have a 2 big pair with straight/flush possibilities. 3 betting is fine.

Flop is basically where all the money went in. You have middle set, unless you can put him on KKxx with 90% certainty- you gotta get it all in the middle because that is a drawy board. He could easily have something like AAJT. I probably never lay this down unless I had an excellent read. I think you played this standard and correctly.

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If his range is KKxx or AAJT, then your 90% number is waaay off.
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

if he's got KK... god bless him.
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Old 02-21-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

What if board is 3s Ac Qh?

Would bet / fold be the right line?
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Old 02-21-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

Folding middle set is very opponent specific and I honestly can't recall the last time I did it fearing top set.
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Old 02-21-2007, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

I think this is pretty standard, I dont think KKxx 3 bets preflop all that often, although you said he was LAG. Also if he did flop top set, I dont see him smooth calling the reraise you made on the flop, even though top set is a big hand, it is vulnerable on this flop and there is no reason for him to slow play it. Turn all-in is standard, there is just too much money in there to fold anything here....
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: HU 200BB pot with middle set?

There is nothing interesting about this hand at all. You have to raise the flop, and unless you're psychic, you have to call the turn. KK, lord bless his lucky behind.
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