FLAME AWAY. help me find the weakness

[stew77]

ok so. ive been trying to experiment with slowing down pf in position with big hands, then obviously taking control on the flop. no real reads on villain... just gonna flat out put the hh... then please tell me what you all wouldve done differently, if anything





Full Tilt Poker Game #1832615642: Table Bonanza (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:47:06 ET - 2007/02/19
Seat 1: Treybet3 ($200)
Seat 2: WallyWattz1 ($201)
Seat 3: wHaTTaDo ($198)
Seat 4: notTHATjonmayer ($217.80)
Seat 5: UMD Tennis ($196.75)
Seat 6: ContenderVS ($229)
WallyWattz1 posts the small blind of $1
wHaTTaDo posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ContenderVS [Kd Ad]
notTHATjonmayer raises to $7
UMD Tennis folds
ContenderVS calls $7
Treybet3 folds
WallyWattz1 folds
wHaTTaDo has 15 seconds left to act
wHaTTaDo folds
*** FLOP *** [Kh Qc Ac]
notTHATjonmayer bets $10
ContenderVS raises to $22
UMD Tennis adds $3.25
notTHATjonmayer raises to $70
ContenderVS raises to $222, and is all in
notTHATjonmayer: oh boy
notTHATjonmayer calls $140.80, and is all in
ContenderVS shows [Kd Ad]
notTHATjonmayer shows [Qd Qs]
Uncalled bet of $11.20 returned to ContenderVS
*** TURN *** [Kh Qc Ac] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Kh Qc Ac 5s] [4c]
ContenderVS shows two pair, Aces and Kings
notTHATjonmayer shows three of a kind, Queens
notTHATjonmayer wins the pot ($435.60) with three of a kind, Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $438.60 | Rake $3
Board: [Kh Qc Ac 5s 4c]
Seat 1: Treybet3 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: WallyWattz1 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: wHaTTaDo (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: notTHATjonmayer showed [Qd Qs] and won ($435.60) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: UMD Tennis didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: ContenderVS showed [Kd Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings

[Bacon Mmmm]

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ok so. ive been trying to experiment with slowing down pf in position with big hands, then obviously taking control on the flop.

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Why would you want to do that?

I would RR pre, then get stacked on the flop.

[EddieRooo]

I would have reraised preflop.

I would have raised more the first time on the flop.

[SABR42]

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I would have reraised preflop.

I would have raised more the first time on the flop.

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[luckybacon]

3bet flop if not raise to39ish on the flop

[afcmokum]

preflop; reraise, you have position.
was a raise or fold decision on the flop after his RR to 70.
i think i would fold here. on the other hand, you have no read so a call is reasonable... but...

J 10 is a option, split pot (AK) is a option, AA KK QQ. i prefer folding.

[Guy McSucker]

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preflop; reraise, you have position.


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This doesn't make sense to me. "Reraise, you have AK" makes sense, but not this.

The advantage of position must surely be bigger the more money there is to play with, since there will be more streets to play in which to use your position to your advantage. Also, if you put in the last raise on the flop, the other guy is more likely to check to you on the flop regardless of his holding.

So, by reraising, you make for a bigger pot with less future betting and get less information from his action on the flop, i.e. you all but throw away your positional advantage.

This is not to say that you shouldn't reraise here; but it seems to me that the reasoning above is backwards.

Guy.

[afcmokum]

say villain is typical, a reraise preflop gives you information about his hand and you have position. If he has AA KK he will probably reraise our bet and he will call with hands like QQ or AK. i agree with your argument that there is less money left for gaining information but if he checks the flop and you make a 3/4 potbet and got reraised all-in there is way to get off your hand.

[stew77]

if the villain was very LAG. would my play be fine here?

[ikestoys]

plz don't post results