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Old 02-19-2007, 05:57 AM
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Default KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

villain is on a couple of my table and he runs about 25/15. so far has played a pretty donkish TAG game. tends to overplay hands and pick bad spots to bluff.
once he enters a pot PF he always wants to see the flop... he has made some pretty bad calls OOP PF with pocket pairs and no implied odds vs shortstacks , and with random unsuited aces and otehr trash vs me.
has been caught bluffing twice with air, once by pushing flop, and another time by raising the flop/ pushing the turn. but then later he showed up with a flopped top set after making the same play


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $99.50
UTG+1: $26.20
Hero: $194.45
Button: $57.70
SB: $129.40
BB: $225.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $9</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.
<font color="blue"> i have no idea what this means from him. ive never seen him flat call a 3 bet (although it was more like a normal raise) </font>

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($20.5, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $50</font>, Hero calls.

<font color="blue"> he could be bluffing with air, semibluffing with big clubs, he could have a set, he could AA, or he could have another overpair that he thinks is the nuts... so i called. i dont know if that is correct, but it seemed like the most logical choice.
thoughts? </font>

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($120.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $70</font> Hero???

<font color="blue"> "oh damn, i guess he really does like his hand!
now what? </font>
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:01 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

u cant ask for a better flop in a rr pot. i think i just push turn
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR IN BABY!!!!
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

This pot isnt really RR very big though, so its hard to just mash our chips in especially vs deep stack. If this guy is usually kinda passive I would fold the turn, but if hes aggro this is very hard choice. I would probebly shove b/c QQ and JJ might call you
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

Popopopopopopopoooosh popopoopooosh. If he has aces - then it's a pity, but I think that's the only real hand you're worried about in here. Obviously he coulda called your raise pf with 44, but I don't think those hands would play like this.

On turn, you're ahead of all draws he could have and you yourself mention that he overplays hands so is it possible he could do this with something like QQ/JJ, figuring you might be on a mediocre overpair or a draw?

I guess it's a bit iffy situation, being this deep, but I'd probably close my eyes and poosh. The flop check/raise, doesn't scream just AA, but draw/QQ as well.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

I'm definitely looking to get my chips in - I'm torn between pushing now or just pushing the river. A big card on the river could kill our action, but if we push now he might wake up and realize he's being retarded with JJ and get away.

Everything looks good on all streets.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

bacon/vamma/fishsticks-
you guys are ok backing your 200 BB stack with an overpair here then?

if the turn was a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] would you play it the same?
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

ah thought it was a 1/2 hand this changes some things.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

[ QUOTE ]
ah thought it was a 1/2 hand this changes some things.

[/ QUOTE ]

so do you still wan to felt KK?
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: KK Deep, reraised pot facing serious heat

i think with this decision i would rely on timing tells/flow of game/ some other factor that would have to make up my decision. Just looking at this hand here against this player, i think i felt it
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