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Old 02-19-2007, 04:42 AM
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Default Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

Sorry guys, no theory provided by me. Of course I have opinion about these kinds of situations, but let's have some unbiased discussion first. 100 BB effective stacks.

Hand 1:

$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, BB folds, Hero...?

Hand 2:

$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, BB folds, Hero...?

Hand 3:

$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, BB folds, Hero...?

What is your pre-flop action and why when...

a) Villain is 18/14 TAG

b) Villain is 30/22 laggish, too aggressive post-flop

c) Villain is 50/22 too loose donk with calling station habits
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

A call
B call
C i think i reraise but i dont know if thats good
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

a. i call, but would RR JJ.
b. given his postflop aggression, call for a set always.
c. mix it up between 3bet and call, probably 50/50.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

hand1 - call. he's tight so i dont see any point in raising here.

hand 2 - call. aggro postflop so will get paid of if we hit our setttt

hand 3 - 3bet. i dont know y... i just didnt wanna say call for all 3 coz im a nit. i guess it does ok against his range, although he's probably calling there
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

Dudes, there are three hands and three villains out there...
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:55 AM
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[censored]. thats like 3x as much work
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

Shameless bump! I would like to have some more opinions here, since basically there isn't any yet.
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

These are assuming 6max.

Hand 1 I vary between calling and reraising. Probably calling 60%/40% reraising. This would depend on my current image at the table and how live/card dead I have been.

Hand 2 Call for set value against the aggressive post flop player. Reraising here and having to play OOP in a bloated pot against an aggressive player is probably spew.

Hand 3 Reraise since your hand is very strong and ahead of his range. Due to the calling station tendancies, you can gain value post flop, and keep the pot controlled post flop since the villan is less likely to reraise with air alot if your read is right.
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Old 02-19-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

Which of the villain options did you choose? I feel retarded, since no one can answer my questions...

And you don't need to assume 6max, since there is definitely 6 players in the pre-flop action.
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Old 02-19-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Facing a pre-flop raise OOP (theorish)

Sorry..chose Hand 1 villan 1, Hand 2 villan 2, Hand 3 villan 3....

Not reading things correct here at work.
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