Really common situation

mack848 · #1 02-16-2007, 09:33 AM

This situation occurs a lot and when multi-tabling, I usually make a mess of it. What's your thinking and plan after the flop call?

Villain in standard FR $100 player - 18/5/2. They usually make tricky moves less than you think they will.

$100 stacks

EP limp, MP limp, I raise to $6 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in SB, BB folds, EP and MP call.

Flop J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] rainbow (3 players, $19 pot)

I bet $14, EP folds, MP calls

Turn 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, $47 pot)

I usually bet about $30 and fold to a raise. Problem is, if I am called on the turn, the pot will be over $100 and I only have $50 left. So it looks like it's a turn push with only TPTK, or a turn check/fold.

How can I avoid this situation with TP OOP?

1p0kerboy · #2 02-16-2007, 09:37 AM

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How can I avoid this situation with TP OOP?

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Don't raise to 6 preflop.

You are OOP so your ability to control the pot sucks. Also you have a dominated, non-suited hand.

xxrod17xx · #3 02-16-2007, 09:37 AM

Maybe make a blocking bet on the turn, or even check the turn for pot control (unlikely tho because what if he bets?).

xxrod17xx · #4 02-16-2007, 09:38 AM

very good point pokerboy, if you didnt get yourself in the sticky situation in the first place it wouldnt be a problem.

1p0kerboy · #5 02-16-2007, 09:38 AM

Building pots out of position with mediocre hands is not the way to win at this game.

xxrod17xx · #6 02-16-2007, 09:39 AM

yea raising preflop with that hand is play saved for 6-max games in that spot.

Jurrr · #7 02-16-2007, 10:03 AM

Well, which hands do we raise out from the blinds?

Substitute QQ instead of AJo and we are in pretty much the same situation really - playing a big pot OOP with just one pair. Surely you don't suggest simply calling with QQ in the SB [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

1p0kerboy · #8 02-16-2007, 10:08 AM

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Substitute QQ instead of AJo and we are in pretty much the same situation really

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Yeah, cause QQ and AJ are about the same strength.

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1p0kerboy · #9 02-16-2007, 10:09 AM

QQ is the third nuts before the flop. AJo is way, way, way down on the list.

Jurrr · #10 02-16-2007, 10:35 AM

Postflop on this board QQ isn't that different from AJo. So if we could maybe put aside the issue of raising AJo out of the blinds and think about the postflop situation, it would also be a part of answering the OP's question IMHO.

Not raising AJo from the blinds is good advice, I'm not arguing with that. Nevertheless, I'm also asking where do we draw the line. Is it OK to raise AQo+/AJs+/JJ+ from the blinds?