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worm33 · #1 02-10-2006, 12:38 PM

9 handed I open in HJ with 99. SB (19-15-1.85) 3 bets me. BB unknown calls leaving himself with $198.

Flop: Kc 4h Ks. Sb bets BB raises I call SB calls.

Turn 4c (Kc 4h Ks 4c) Sb checks BB bets ($118 left) I raise SB folds BB 3 bets I call.

River blank BB bets his last $38 I call.

poker1O1 · #2 02-10-2006, 01:00 PM

Fold this flop is my first reaction. Once you get to the turn though, why are you raising, and even worse, calling a 3bet?

sublime · #3 02-10-2006, 01:04 PM

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Fold this flop is my first reaction. Once you get to the turn though, why are you raising, and even worse, calling a 3bet?

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4 potential overcards in SB hand is the reason for the 3-bet.

the call is probably the result of the short stack in front of the BB.

sublime · #4 02-10-2006, 02:57 PM

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Fold this flop is my first reaction. Once you get to the turn though, why are you raising, and even worse, calling a 3bet?

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4 potential overcards in SB hand is the reason for the 3-bet.

the call is probably the result of the short stack in front of the BB.

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worm-

why not 3-bet the flop though?

Joe Tall · #5 02-10-2006, 03:02 PM

I think if you are going to continue on this flop you should 3-bet. You may get a better hand to fold like TT, or aleast overcards to your hand w/redraws by the SB and face the short-stack HU as his range is much wider.

toss · #6 02-10-2006, 05:50 PM

I'd cap this preflop. SB is probably 3-betting with a wide range that you beat. I wouldn't be too worried about BB yet.

Hand looks good postflop. I expect to see a smaller pocket pair a good amount here.

toss · #7 02-10-2006, 05:52 PM

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I think if you are going to continue on this flop you should 3-bet. You may get a better hand to fold like TT, or aleast overcards to your hand w/redraws by the SB and face the short-stack HU as his range is much wider.

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Do you think 3-betting the flop is better than raising the turn because we're letting overcards see the turn too cheaply? Or 3-betting will do a better job of folding out better hands like TT?

Josh. · #8 02-10-2006, 06:18 PM

it is possible BB will stack off with any pair, and the SB is the type of player who attacks weakness. so i think you have to stand up and 3-bet the flop. i am guessing you waited for the turn to represent a K, but i don't think the SB is folding a better hand often enough, and i don't think getting the SB to fold a better hand is worth the times you let yourself get whipsawed (and i don't think you can fold because of it either) on the flop because you showed weakness, the times that you end up forcing him out with 88-55, and the times you let him draw to a 6 outer for one bet. a 3-bet freezes the action nicely, even if the SB has a big pair

PokerBob · #9 02-10-2006, 06:23 PM

i like 3betting the flop, as there are many overs to your hand that i wouldn't mind if SB folded.

worm33 · #10 02-10-2006, 07:23 PM

I dont like the way I played this hand. I thought by calling on the flop I might be able to pop the short stacked bb and get the sb to fold a PP better than mine a decent amount of the time. In hindsight I should have just 3 bet the flop and went from there.