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Old 02-15-2007, 06:26 PM
Poker Plan Poker Plan is offline
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Default Stars: 0.10/0.20 V 0.25/0.50 Limits

I am only rolled for .10/0.20 Limit, so this is my stomping ground for now. But I have taken two shots at 0.25/0.50 and both times I have found the general standard of the table noticably worse than the one below.

Is this just a coincidence for the two times I have played at that level or could it be that 0.25/0.50 is the level which starts to attract clueless fish because they can take the money "seriously"? If that is the case, I may consider moving to 0.25/0.50 full time and step down if I run into trouble. I have a BR of $91 and 32K hands experience at the nanos. I am running at 2BB/100 over the 32K hands- and that is from day 1 of playing online poker (ie not having a clue!)

Any comments much appreciated.

Ian
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Stars: 0.10/0.20 V 0.25/0.50 Limits

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Old 02-15-2007, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Stars: 0.10/0.20 V 0.25/0.50 Limits

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Please expand.

I am not referring to my results, but commenting on the hole cards others are playing and how far they go with them.

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Old 02-15-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Stars: 0.10/0.20 V 0.25/0.50 Limits

ok - the long answer...

I don't think there is too much difference between these levels (usually there's not a big difference between any two consecutive levels except what's in your head). That said .25/.50 is not generally easier than lower levels and BR rules are there to help you minimixe your risk of ruin. Dropping 150BB is well within the realm of variance and if you are playing .25/.50 you can blow your whole roll doing that.
Take your time, be smart, win money, move up, win more money, rinse and repeat.
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:49 PM
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ok - the long answer...

Take your time, be smart, win money, move up, win more money, rinse and repeat.

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You are of course dead right.

You're advice is (as always) much respected and appreciated.

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Old 02-15-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Stars: 0.10/0.20 V 0.25/0.50 Limits

you should be beating that level for more than 2BB/100... you probably have some leaks in your game that you should try to figure out.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Stars: 0.10/0.20 V 0.25/0.50 Limits

A graph says more than thousand words. This is from a game that is so unbelievably soft you wouldn't believe it. But variance is a bitch. Unless your BR doesn't withstand that good enough for you to not loose sleep, you sholdn't move up.

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Old 02-15-2007, 07:02 PM
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you should be beating that level for more than 2BB/100... you probably have some leaks in your game that you should try to figure out.

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I am beating my current for about 4BB/100 (still not good enough). The 2BB/100 was for all the levels I have played (ie the total 31K hands). As I said- this takes in the stats from my first few months of playing where I really didn't have a clue.

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Old 02-15-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Stars: 0.10/0.20 V 0.25/0.50 Limits

I have been playing the 0.05/0.10 tables at PS for a few months. Several times I have built up my bankroll to a level that I decided was my threshold to switch blinds and several times been knocked back down very quickly.

0.05/0.10: 4.5BB/100 in 5000 hands
0.10/0.20: -27BB/100 in 340 hand

So I'm finding 0.10/0.20 difficult coming from the other side.

I'm not sure if:
a. the psychology of the higher amounts makes me play differently (I try to play consitently),
b. the players in the 0.10/0.20 games are that much better or
c. variance is coming into play (some players at 0.10/0.20 are very loose and aggressive, making for big pots).

One significant difference between 0.10/0.20 and 0.25/0.50 is that there are usually many more active tables at the higher level. Usually 2-3x as many games. Is there a reason number of table would make a difference in standards? It will definitely make it easier to find a good table.
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Old 02-15-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: Stars: 0.10/0.20 V 0.25/0.50 Limits

Is that really -27? Or did you mean -2.7? If it's the former, it's def. variance as not even the world biggest donkey can loose that much when playing seriously. Also, 340 hands is a joke sample. You ran into a few suckouts and that is that.

Even 5000 hands is not a lot. If that is all you played, you increased your BR by ~$20. Assuming you were properly rolled for 5c/10c (=$40-$50), you should now be somewhere around $60. Take a shot at 10c/20c when you're up at $80 and for the fun of it, make it $100. Put in 10k hands at 10/20 and look again.

Edit: Players are definitely not better at 10/20 - at least not really noticable.
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