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Old 02-14-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default JJ simple Q

2/4 FTP 6m.

No real reads, villan looks to be std TAG. Runs like 21/16 or something like that, no real history between us. Hero is TAG, though has not been at table long enough to establish an image.

$400 effective stacks

PF: Folded to Villan in MP, he opens for $14. All fold to me in BB, I RR to $55 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], he calls $41.

($110) Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero bets $88, Villan shoves.

Easy call right? Whats the minimum hand your calling with here? TT?
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: JJ simple Q

i usually call this, however, lately, it seems like I am constantly getting trapped by AA/KK when I 3-bet pre-flop...still doesn't stop me from stacking off here though as you'll see a smaller pair of flush draw plenty of times.
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: JJ simple Q

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2/4 FTP 6m.

No real reads, villan looks to be std TAG. Runs like 21/16 or something like that, no real history between us. Hero is TAG, though has not been at table long enough to establish an image.

$400 effective stacks

PF: Folded to Villan in MP, he opens for $14. All fold to me in BB, I RR to $55 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], he calls $41.

($110) Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero bets $88, Villan shoves.

Easy call right? Whats the minimum hand your calling with here? TT?

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I would bet more like $70-80 on the flop and usually fold this vs an unknown TAG, but it's very close
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: JJ simple Q

close, FD makes it a call imo.
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: JJ simple Q

this is a flush draw less and less these days and more and more its KK/AA
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: JJ simple Q

Id call here. 66-88 is easier fold. I cant fold Jacks here without some history or great read on villian
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:35 PM
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without history, i think this is a pretty easy fold
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:42 PM
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I think villian is going to have QQ-AA here a lot. I also think if you're facing a flush draw it somewhat likely there will be overcard outs for the opponent as well. I'd probably call, but I think the smart money is to fold.
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:43 PM
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i usually call this, however, lately, it seems like I am constantly getting trapped by AA/KK when I 3-bet pre-flop...still doesn't stop me from stacking off here though as you'll see a smaller pair of flush draw plenty of times.

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Old 02-14-2007, 10:52 PM
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If he's agro, I check-push usually.
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