200nl : River bluffs, Part 2

Mr_Donktastic · #1 02-14-2007, 04:12 PM

Assume villians in this hand are unknown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 ($187.40)
MP3 ($202.10)
CO ($80.30)
Button ($201.75)
SB ($74.80)
BB ($72)
UTG ($241.15)
Hero ($193.45)
MP1 ($343.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets $8, BB folds, Hero calls $8, MP2 folds, CO calls $8.

River: ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24

blunty31 · #2 02-14-2007, 04:26 PM

Good bluff against a decent player, he has to put you on a 7. Of course half the time you'll have 88-99 call you.

Jurrr · #3 02-14-2007, 05:09 PM

I fold pre. I fold turn; SB could just be taking a shot and thus you don't have implied odds; also you only really like 4 of your outs as the rest may give somebody a flush. River is alright I guess; though I'd like it much better HU instead of CO being behind.

blunty31 · #4 02-14-2007, 05:26 PM

wow juu how tight do you play?

D.L.M. · #5 02-14-2007, 05:28 PM

this is good, and kinda standard against alot of villians, he could put you on any queen here as well as maybe a 7. a fine play.

Mr_Donktastic · #6 02-14-2007, 05:30 PM

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wow juu how tight do you play?

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Yeah, sheesh, doesn't EVERYBODY limp 89s UTG+1!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Re: bluffing into 2 opps...doesn't this make the bluff appear stronger?

Vegetarian · #7 02-14-2007, 05:37 PM

This isn't the type of spot where you should be bluffing. Nothing on this board has changed, no scare card has come and you are betting into not 1 but 2 unknowns.

This is Spew.

Every draw has missed and the 7 shouldn't really scare anyone. Not to mention the sb or the co could easily have a 7.

You shouldn't bluff in spots where people expect you to bluff.

Jurrr · #8 02-14-2007, 05:44 PM

I play very tight and weak in limped pots. I will semi-bluff if I have a draw; and I will bluff with ATC sometimes in position; but here on turn I'd rather raise him than call this bet.

I don't limp SCs in EP. I may raise them in MP from time to time, and will often raise them in LP and always in CO/BTN but I don't like cold-calling raises with them OOP and then playing them OOP since Cry/Berge suggested I don't.

Re: bluffing 2 opps I think at the level you play from which I am years of improvement away it makes the bluff stronger, you're right.

Just my $0.02, I'm not saying what I do is right.

amfox · #9 02-14-2007, 06:48 PM

I don't mind preflop or flop. When SB leads out the turn and there are still two people to act after you, I don't like the call. It is too risky that someone else raises after you (in which case you have to ditch the hand) and you also need to consider that perhaps SB hit his SB special. I'd wait for a better spot.

modnareno · #10 02-14-2007, 06:55 PM

I agree with everything Juu said.