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Old 02-13-2007, 07:32 PM
hasugopher hasugopher is offline
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Default 25/50 spewy shove pre with ATs?

MezmerizePlZ seems decent enough, he hasn't been 3-betting me light but it's still very early in the session and I think his 3-bet range here on the button is fairly wide. I could be wrong. I'm not really sure what to put philivey on here but I think he'd be 4-betting cold with AA/KK/AK type hands.. again I could be wrong.

My think here is that there's already about $1300 dead money in the pot, so if I'm thinking that if I shove and get called in one spot half the time and win the pot the other half the time, it's ~0ev.

I'm playing really nitty and my range here is heavily weighted towards AA/KK/AK. I think they both probably realize this.

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POKERSTARS GAME #8426105425: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($25/$50) - 2007/02/13 - 18:06:18 (ET)
Table 'Leonid' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: twin-caracas ($3850 in chips)
Seat 2: knockstiff ($925 in chips)
Seat 3: Lukieplaya ($5000 in chips)
Seat 4: Semifaded ($3233 in chips)
Seat 5: MezmerizePLZ ($5569 in chips)
Seat 7: philivey2694 ($22039 in chips)
Seat 9: basebal1b ($6396 in chips)
kwil20 will be allowed to play after the button
philivey2694: posts small blind $25
basebal1b: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lukieplaya [Ts As]
twin-caracas: folds
knockstiff: folds
Lukieplaya: raises $110 to $160
Semifaded: folds
MezmerizePLZ: raises $390 to $550
philivey2694: calls $525
basebal1b: folds
Lukieplaya: raises $4450 to $5000 and is all-in
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:43 PM
restrikt restrikt is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 spewy shove pre with ATs?

Yes it is spewy.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:43 PM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 spewy shove pre with ATs?

i rather make it 1550 than shove.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:44 PM
FloydTheWall FloydTheWall is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 spewy shove pre with ATs?

honestly what you type about the way they are playing and your reads on what they will reraise with / fold is going to dictate what anyone says here. i dont think people can give advice on this hand... i probably won't just shove AT there...
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 spewy shove pre with ATs?

im much more scared of phils coldcall than button's repop. he is a very agressive, tough opponent in my opinion and i don't think he's coldcalling here with a wide range. definately with nothing worse than AT. i think he's got JJ+ AK and occasional AQ but prob never AJ. he is never folding kk or aa and very very rarely would he take this line and muck to shove w. AK. i think he may be capable of folding JJ often and qq occasionally.

with that said i like a call much more than shove since i think phil is looking you up quite often and maybe even button as well when you're pretty big dog.

this is a high variance play but it can be +ev if phils range is wider and we all kno button's range can be very wide here
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 spewy shove pre with ATs?

this is gross, if mesmerize mucks phil is calling like at the very least 2/3 the time...
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 spewy shove pre with ATs?

This has already been said but I really don't like it because of the cold call people don't cold call 10% of their effective stack with junk your getting called a lot here.
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Old 02-13-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 spewy shove pre with ATs?

this is a really good spot to call
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