meh.

latefordinner · #1 02-13-2007, 04:04 PM

10-20 5 handed

Villain in the SB is tilting a bit, though more preflop looseness than horrendous post-flop play. A regular LAG he's at 38/25/2 1BB/100 over 4k hands in my database.

Hero opens UTG with JJ, Villain calls, BB calls.

Flop 99T

Villain checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Villain raises, BB folds, Hero 3 bets, Villain caps, Hero calls.

Turn 2

Villain bets, Hero calls.

River Q

Villain checks, Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero folds.

wackjob · #2 02-13-2007, 04:19 PM

check the river against a LAG like this, at least for me. because if I value bet here, and he raises I'm gonna have a hard time folding, and I will be dead a lot, but sometimes he will be bluffing so I will want to call. I think I'd also raise the turn here, especially if the guy is tilting and is likely overplaying TP or a draw.

danzasmack · #3 02-13-2007, 04:20 PM

When a LAG makes a seeminly irrational river check, I will check behind more often than not. If he is on super tilt I will raise the turn.

As played, I check behind.

rubbrband · #4 02-13-2007, 04:31 PM

I am more likely to check here esp when the Q hits.

latefordinner · #5 02-13-2007, 04:41 PM

my thoughts on the turn: I'm somewhat wary of raising in these positions against these villains, esp this villain in particular since he is quite capable of 3betting with a T or a draw (probably not an underpair though)

river is usually a check behind, but I felt pretty sure he would pay off an underpair here, maybe even ace-high -- I felt the C/R was for value as villain has to expect at least a crying call here.

Victor · #6 02-13-2007, 04:43 PM

lol, i call bs on you guys checking here.

synbad13 · #7 02-13-2007, 09:07 PM

As played I would call the river.
Is this wrong?

Zele · #8 02-13-2007, 11:28 PM

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lol, i call bs on you guys checking here.

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I agree. When the Q hits and he checks, I'm already mentally spending the BB he's going to pay me with AT. I think the "WTF factor" provides enough equity to call the CR.

admiralfluff · #9 02-14-2007, 02:05 AM

Pretty easy turn raise for me. Tricky LAGs often prefer to c/r the turn to capping the flop with a 9 (at least against me).

Easy value bet on the river. Sucks to get owned by the c/r, but it won't happen very often. I think in a vacuum it's a fold, but I probably call 75% of the time.