3/6 99, how should I have played this?

Machinehead · #1 02-10-2006, 01:40 AM

Button was 12/12/.75 after 49 hands
MP1 was tight so far, 15 VPIP but I only had 18 hands or so on him.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
Hero calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Button raises, 1 fold, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Flop: (11.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Button calls, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

River: (14.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 16.66 BB

Comments on every street please. I really didn't like how I played this hand.

bungyrocks · #2 02-10-2006, 01:47 AM

raise preflop. and the hand will play out differently.
The way u played it I would go for the flop check raise - assuming it is checked to the preflop raiser. This way u can fold off overcard draws, back door flush draws and
gutshots.
bet/call the turn. river is standard.

Machinehead · #3 02-10-2006, 05:09 AM

bump

Nick C · #4 02-10-2006, 05:45 AM

Button's turn raise is unexpected and could be JJ (edit: also, QT can't be ruled out, though I think the preflop raise decreases the chances that he has that hand somewhat), but I think you should 3-bet anyway. Hopefully, it's just an overpair he decided to wait and raise with on the turn. (If he capped, I would check-call the river.)

The drawback to this is that it could drive out hands that have no unique outs against you. But there is some chance too that if you happen to drive out QJ, it could end up saving you the pot. And although you're unlikely to drive out a hand like JT, and a diamond draw will also call, the 3-bet is for value so long as you're ahead.

The river lead seems okay to me, even though I guess MP1 decided you must have trips or, even if you didn't, Button likely had him beat anyway (or maybe MP1 just had a draw). You certainly don't want the river getting checked through, Button seems like he might be passive and might not bet, checkraising and then getting 3-bet would suck, and checkraising might not win you any more than leading (since it'll make MP1 more likely to fold).

Niediam · #5 02-10-2006, 06:21 AM

Fold the flop. But if you continue...

Raise the turn. But if you just call...

Check raise the river.

Merlin27 · #6 02-10-2006, 07:21 AM

I think you must 3-bet the turn! This is for value and also to get rid of someone behind you (MP1+2) who might have a gut shot straight, but cannot coldcall.

SnglMaltScotch · #7 02-10-2006, 12:30 PM

Preflop is either a raise or a fold depending on table conditions. I have been favoring raising lately.

It is hard to comment on the rest of the hand since there are so many people that are in that probably wouldn't be if you raise preflop.

I would 3bet the turn and call down if capped.

Fat Nicky · #8 02-10-2006, 12:42 PM

A few posters commented on pre-flop. I really don't think limping in is such a big deal here. Sure, I raise most of the time, but limping is ok too. Folding is out of the question.

I also don't mind seeing the turn here, we're closing the action for 1 small bet in a 14 SB pot. Sure we don't really have the immediate odds to call here, but i'm sure we can make up the difference if we turn a 9.

Ok, we hit our set. You must 3-bet this turn. The pot is pretty big at this point and you want to face MP1 and MP2 with calling 2 more bets, especially since there is a good chance they are both drawing. Sometimes they will call with sufficient odds and that's fine, we're getting value off our hand when they don't hit. Sometimes, they will fold with sufficient odds, which is fine too in a pot of this size. They might even call getting insufficient odds. Either way, 3-betting her is the play.

If we somehow get capped, I hope only to put in 1 more BB on the river, unless of course we fill up.

Bluffoon · #9 02-10-2006, 01:06 PM

The games I play if I limp this UTG more often than not I end up isolated and OOP so I prefer a raise. If the preflop action in this hand was typical for this particular game I like the limp and it worked out very well for you. I think the flop is good, checking the turn seems to be a little risky with all the draws on board. I prefer to bet/three bet but I don't think going for the check raise is bad either. I don't care for the check/call.

psuasskicker · #10 02-10-2006, 01:23 PM

I pretty much think every action you took was the wrong one. Raise before the flop. The flop is an easy fold but you can play it harder if you were the PFR with fewer players in. The turn is an easy three bet. The river should be check raised.

Ew...

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