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Old 02-12-2007, 01:41 PM
CappyAA CappyAA is offline
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Default AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

Villain is running 19/13.5/2.1 over 350 hands with him. With deeper (almost 150 BB) stack sizes, what is my line here? What is villain's range to do this on such a dry board?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $285
UTG+1: $190.60
CO: $337.65
Button: $174.85
SB: $74.65
BB: $39.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($19, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $14</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($47, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $31</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $80</font>, Hero........
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

i would probably shove here. his minraise doesnt mean much to me. i can only see him having 88/22 for hands that we're losing against. AA/QQ are also possibilities, but i would expect a raise pf. 22 seems highly unlikely with 88 being the only possible holding (that we're dominated by) i can see him taking this line with.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

Shove, if he has 88 o well
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

While I agree with the 88, oh well comment, I'm not so sure on the shove part because of that. His range is something like {88, AQ, A8, air} - A8 is gonna bet the river more than likely, AQ it doesn't matter what happens and 88 is obviously betting the river(bad). Its the air part we care about. I'd say call and either fake block river/call shove or c/c river to make the most out of his air hands since at this point, thats pretty much what we have to do.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:52 PM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

This is a tough one...hes a pretty tag players so:

I think aa,qq, ak,aq probably reraise you preflop so i dont necessarily think those are in

Set of 8s has to be very probably, a8 seems like a decent hand for him to have. q8 is the very worst imo for him to hold, j10s maybe but i think he almost always raises the flop if he has that kind of draw

With stacks this deep im probably just callin this raise. You have made it pretty clear u have ax so hop
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:54 PM
PBJaxx PBJaxx is offline
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

Um...Q8? What 19/13.5 calls a UTG raise with Q8?
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:54 PM
nogenius nogenius is offline
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

I push AI here. I don't think he has a set, as he wouldn't have flatcalled the flop, so you should be good.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

edit-- i mean push, not call.

he might have A2.
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:57 PM
carrotsnake carrotsnake is offline
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

This flop makes a lot of sense to just call with a set to act like your floating and A2s and A8s don't make a lot of sense for a 19/13 player in the CO(maybe on the button, but even then, meh). Its not horrible to even just call here and fold to a shove on the river, though the possibility of A8 makes that a lil more blahish
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: AQ Top 2 Pair vs. Decent Player - Facing Turn Raise

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Um...Q8? What 19/13.5 calls a UTG raise with Q8?


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Agreed - This villain does not have Q8 here.

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I push AI here. I don't think he has a set, as he wouldn't have flatcalled the flop, so you should be good.


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What range are you putting him on then that you could deduce this?

The board is very dry. This villain would raise the flop with a hand like JTd, J9d, KJd, or KTd so I think we can rule those hands out. I also think we can rule out AA/QQ as he would reraise preflop.

With this in mind please define a range. I like carrotsnakes range best so far.
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