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Old 02-11-2007, 11:07 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default AA and the river confuses me

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Paradise Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
7 players
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Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $0.75</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (11.5SB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 11.5SB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 5.75BB, Sidepot 1: 1BB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.75BB, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: 5.75BB, Sidepot 1: 3BB)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>...

Some questions:
1) If I'm raised, should I call?
2) Is bet/call the ideal river line here, or something else?
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Old 02-11-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: AA and the river confuses me

I like a bet/fold here. Get some action from somebody playing a smaller pair and get away from a hand you lose to.
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Old 02-11-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: AA and the river confuses me

NEIN! Du brauchst Check/Call oder vielleicht eine Bet/Call. Das Pot ist zu gross fur falten!
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Old 02-11-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: AA and the river confuses me

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NO! Perhaps you need check/call or praying/call. The Pot is fur folds too large!

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QFT. If you're ascared of the jack here (and I am) you can take the cheap way out and check/call. With a whiffed flush draw out I want my SD.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: AA and the river confuses me

I'd put the opponent on KJ/QJ or a lower pocket pair like TT or 99 (if he's a fish)

What would the opponent call with if you bet here, a jack, and most likely raise.
He will fold if he hasn't got the jack. So you can't win by betting.

If you're opponent is not a total donk, I would check on the river and call if he bets.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:27 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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NEIN! Du brauchst Check/Call oder vielleicht eine Bet/Call. Das Pot ist zu gross fur falten!

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YA aber zin englisch bitte! wir bin nichten Berliners!!

Auch zin nichte a wordzen! Ich knowen! Ich knowen!
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:56 AM
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Ahhh Confucious say..... du saugst einen Deutschen.
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:44 AM
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I bet you will be suprised how often you are called here by Ace high. So I would assume just about any pair will call a river bet and a full house would most likely raise.
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Old 02-12-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: AA and the river confuses me

I c/c. He won't call you with a wiffed FD but he might bluff with it. He will raise with a J.

With a good read that he calls down with any pp or A high (if he's like 40/2/0.5), I'd favor a b/f-line.
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Old 02-12-2007, 06:58 AM
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you need check/call or praying/call


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Haha I think religiousity won't help here [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

On the river I b/f.
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