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Old 02-10-2006, 12:08 AM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default AJs: shorty push + call in front (22)

I didn't fear that UTG+1 was calling with a monster, but at the same time, he'd be getting 2.25:1 to call if I pushed. Also, button was incredibly loose as the bigstack.

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t240)
UTG+1 (t1765)
MP1 (t1290)
Hero (t935)
Button (t2135)
SB (t570)
BB (t1065)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t240 (All-in)</font>, UTG+1 calls t240, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: AJs: shorty push + call in front (22)

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I didn't fear that UTG+1 was calling with a monster, but at the same time, he'd be getting 2.25:1 to call if I pushed. Also, button was incredibly loose as the bigstack.

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t240)
UTG+1 (t1765)
MP1 (t1290)
Hero (t935)
Button (t2135)
SB (t570)
BB (t1065)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with A J
UTG raises to t240 (All-in), UTG+1 calls t240, MP1 folds, Hero folds


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I'd push
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:42 AM
HonestIago15 HonestIago15 is offline
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Default Re: AJs: shorty push + call in front (22)

Yeah, I'd push. I'm alright with big stack calling me with an inferior hand here. It seems to me that the UTG+1 is folding most of the time here and if big stack is loose. If his calling range is

22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs

It's +1.5% to be all in with AJs

sounds alright to me
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: AJs: shorty push + call in front (22)

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It seems to me that the UTG+1 is folding most of the time here

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I don't know about that. He'd be getting 2.25:1 to call my push and he'd still have t830 left if he called and lost.
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Old 02-10-2006, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: AJs: shorty push + call in front (22)

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It seems to me that the UTG+1 is folding most of the time here

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I don't know about that. He'd be getting 2.25:1 to call my push and he'd still have t830 left if he called and lost.

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You might be overestimating the ability of players at the 22's to understand pot odds. I smell weakness when a player makes this flat call. Besides, is getting called with AJs such a terrible thing here if they're going to do it with an inferior hand? Are players gonna be flat calling with AQ+ or a high pocket pair? The only hands you have to fear here are middle pockets, IMO. I push and hope that the player doesn't have em.
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Old 02-10-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: AJs: shorty push + call in front (22)

bump for the afternoon crowd.

i don't do this often but i think this one is interesting (and much closer) than the replies would indicate.

think about my fe and what kind of range the caller would have to be on (and what his calling range would have to be) to make pushing correct
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Old 02-10-2006, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: AJs: shorty push + call in front (22)

45suited, I'm curious why you don't think a monster is in UTG+1's range. Or was that not what you meant?
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Old 02-10-2006, 02:55 PM
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45suited, I'm curious why you don't think a monster is in UTG+1's range. Or was that not what you meant?

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It's obviously always a possibility, I just meant that his flat call did not set off alarms or anything like that.
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Old 02-10-2006, 02:55 PM
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I'd fold.
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Old 02-10-2006, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: AJs: shorty push + call in front (22)

Unless UTG+1 has proven to be loose I'm folding. The flat call just doesn't seem right and I doubt you are any better than a coinflip against him.
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