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02-11-2007, 06:00 PM
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Overbet shoving the river is all the rage these days
My 2nd hand at the table. I have absolutely no reads
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $3/$6 3 players Converter Stack sizes: Hero: $591 SB: $625.50 BB: $783.50 Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $21</font>, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($45, 2 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $120</font>, Hero calls. Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($285, 2 players) BB checks, Hero checks. River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($285, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $642.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $450</font>. Uncalled bets: $192.5 returned to BB. Results: Final pot: $1185 
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#2
02-11-2007, 06:03 PM
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Re: Overbet shoving the river is all the rage these days
i think i woulda shoved the turn or bet enough to pc urself and call a push. i also think 3-betting flop is okay. i would expect him to bet a set/2pr cause board is so drawy therefore making his most likely hand a draw or air, and air probably won't bluff the river after you call a flop cr and check back turn...if he's at all competent he'll realize you're playing for pc not to fold the hand to a bet on the end. given how you got here i think it's a fold for the reasons i just gave, but i could probably be persuaded otherwise as i wouldn't often be here due to getting the money in sooner.
EDIT: i'm re-thinking my post and it sounds really counter intuitive, but i still think i stand by it. just wanted to point out that i realize if we are folding here he should be pushing busted draws, but i still think he won't usually unless he's a total monkey cause he'll never expect any1 to fold what u are repping here. if u won i'm guessing he had something like AXs or something like that with absolutely no showdown value and he was making a desperation bluff. i also don't think he's ever v-betting worse here.
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#4
02-11-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: Overbet shoving the river is all the rage these days
spew
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#5
02-11-2007, 06:08 PM
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Re: Overbet shoving the river is all the rage these days
You only beat a bluff? I think his move looks pretty strong.
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#7
02-11-2007, 06:14 PM
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Re: Overbet shoving the river is all the rage these days
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You only beat a bluff? I think his move looks pretty strong. [/ QUOTE ] eh, i guess. obviously he's not value shoving any 1 pair hand... i mean what do we think he checks the turn with? it's kind of a dangerous board to be giving free rivers to with a good made hand, isnt it?
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#8
02-11-2007, 06:16 PM
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Re: Overbet shoving the river is all the rage these days
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i mean what do we think he checks the turn with? it's kind of a dangerous board to be giving free rivers to with a good made hand, isnt it? [/ QUOTE ] All kinds of stuff. Lots of people play bad.
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#9
02-11-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: Overbet shoving the river is all the rage these days
my hand is so transparent here...without history it's pretty obvious i'm NEVER calling an overbet on this river. I figured he knew my hand wasn't strong enough to call...
the thing that messed with me big time is that i figured he would at least lead a draw again on the turn so i was a bit hesitent to put him on a missed draw...
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#10
02-11-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: Overbet shoving the river is all the rage these days
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looks like he missed a turn c/r with J10ss or 78ss etc. I would fold. i would also 3bet that flop. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, calling here you're basically just praying to get shown busted spades
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