I'm posting this because I hurt my hand

[WilyTilt]

...slamming it on the table


PokerStars Game #8341356428: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/02/08 - 16:02:22 (ET)
Table 'Tekmessa' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Donrodolfo ($264.75 in chips)
Seat 2: WilyTilt ($599.85 in chips)
Seat 3: pepperdiablo ($1576.30 in chips)
Seat 4: davebreal ($392 in chips)
Seat 5: SSSHIP_IT ($698.30 in chips)
Seat 6: ihatecake ($2210.60 in chips)
Seat 7: XXTickerXX ($115.80 in chips)
Seat 8: YaraYara ($282.05 in chips)
Seat 9: macheese23 ($402.10 in chips)
YaraYara: posts small blind $2
macheese23: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WilyTilt [2s Ac Ad 7s]
Donrodolfo: folds
WilyTilt: raises $8 to $12
pepperdiablo: folds
davebreal: calls $12
SSSHIP_IT: folds
ihatecake: calls $12
XXTickerXX: folds
YaraYara: folds
macheese23: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd As 2h]
WilyTilt: bets $36
davebreal: calls $36
ihatecake: calls $36
*** TURN *** [Jd As 2h] [9h]
WilyTilt: bets $144
davebreal said, "hope your not getting cute here"
davebreal: calls $144
ihatecake: folds
*** RIVER *** [Jd As 2h 9h] [Ks]
WilyTilt: bets $407.85 and is all-in
davebreal: calls $200 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
WilyTilt: shows [2s Ac Ad 7s] (HI: three of a kind, Aces)
davebreal: shows [Qc Th Jh Ah] (HI: a straight, Ten to Ace)
davebreal collected $835 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $838 | Rake $3
Board [Jd As 2h 9h Ks]
Seat 1: Donrodolfo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: WilyTilt showed [2s Ac Ad 7s] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: pepperdiablo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: davebreal showed [Qc Th Jh Ah] and won ($835) with HI: a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: SSSHIP_IT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ihatecake folded on the Turn
Seat 7: XXTickerXX (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: YaraYara (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: macheese23 (big blind) folded before Flop


WilyTilt said, "sigh dave"
WilyTilt said, "you post such good strategy too [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]"
davebreal said, "i was trying to make J's full [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]"

[davebreal]

fold, preflop.

obviously.

[Shabamabam]

Dave, can you comment on why you didn't push on the turn with only $200 behind?

[Frond]

Im no expert here, but DB did have many outs & redraws did he not? And to the nuts as well. WT had maybe 2-3 outs to take it down by the turn? Correct me if I am wrong

[bbartlog]

If DB had put WT squarely on AAxx then it would have been correct to fold the flop. But since A2WW plays the same way and is about equally likely I think the flop call is fine, and even if you downgrade the chance of A2WW (instead of AAxx) by quite a bit when you see the turn bet, it's still correct to call. Notice that given the payoff the implied odds were almost there for a call (on the turn) even if DB knows for sure that WT has AAxx...

[Frond]

Is this a fold on the flop then for WT? If not the flop then for sure by the turn I'd think

[1MoreFish4U]

[ QUOTE ]
Im no expert here, but DB did have many outs & redraws did he not? And to the nuts as well. WT had maybe 2-3 outs to take it down by the turn? Correct me if I am wrong

[/ QUOTE ]


I may not play PLO8, but it seems to me that from Wily's standpoint he had over half the deck as outs.
Wily had half the deck as outs.

[bbartlog]

Frond is being tongue in cheek. I hope. It doesn't make sense to talk about WT's 'outs', he had the made hand.

[davebreal]

[ QUOTE ]
Frond is being tongue in cheek. I hope. It doesn't make sense to talk about WT's 'outs', he had the made hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think he might be talking about all of the scary broadway and wheel cards that can come off. Regardless, top set is still a favorite over all drawing hands in this particular situation.

[davebreal]

I don't like to get my money in while i'm behind [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]