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Old 02-08-2007, 04:54 PM
sasha sasha is offline
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Default butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

This is from bad tilt session yesterday.
Pre flop I didn"t 3 bet , because cts satdown about 3 round ago, and I was card dead for 3 rounds, and did not play one hand.
This said I thought he will know exactly what I have if I 3bet his utg raise from the bb, after folding for 3 rounds.

FullTiltPoker Game #1750668420: Table Bell (6 max) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:33:49 ET - 2007/02/07
Seat 1: MUCKEMSAYUHH ($1,000)
Seat 2: Arkon10 ($1,565.15)
Seat 3: Donkitup ($965)
Seat 4: Congenital Bleb ($995)
Seat 5: ericontilt ($1,329)
Seat 6: good2cu ($1,000)
ericontilt posts the small blind of $5
good2cu posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ericontilt [Ad As]
MUCKEMSAYUHH raises to $35
Arkon10 folds
Donkitup folds
Congenital Bleb folds
ericontilt calls $30
good2cu folds
*** FLOP *** [4s Ks Qd]
ericontilt checks
MUCKEMSAYUHH bets $70
ericontilt calls $70
*** TURN *** [4s Ks Qd] [8s]
ericontilt checks
MUCKEMSAYUHH bets $200
ericontilt calls $200
*** RIVER *** [4s Ks Qd 8s] [Kd]
ericontilt checks
MUCKEMSAYUHH bets $510
Hero?

I was deciding between checkraising/calling the flop.
Decided just to call , and either lead, or go for check raise on blank turn.
Turn was bad, I think He could very well put me on flush, and fold everything that I beat, If I lead.

On the river he should know by now, that most likely I don"t have a flush, or fullhouse.
What do I do now?
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:58 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

As played, I would have c/r the flop, I guess.

River seems like a fold.
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

you played it well. now fold. any other card but the K and you can c/c the riv for max value
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

I like c/r the flop. But I would 3-bet PF. I don't like your reasoning for not 3-betting. He is more likely to have a good hand here, and will give you action PF.
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

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I like c/r the flop. But I would 3-bet PF. I don't like your reasoning for not 3-betting. He is more likely to have a good hand here, and will give you action PF.

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i don't know exactly how the op plays, but against a lot of players, if they 3-bet me there, it's AA or KK only. and good2cu is not scared to squeeze even an utg raiser
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

i don't mind slowplaying preflop too much in this scenario, given the fact if you reraise it's going to be a fairly narrow range.

on the flop i'd do something else, either c/r or lead out to bet 3/bet all in.

river is close, i mean, your hand looks alot like a hand like KT and i don't knwo if CTS would try to bluff that here. CTS may have complete crap like seven high and have no other choice but to bluff here but i dunno.
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

Tough spot, obviously all you have is a bluff catcher here. With how the hand went down your hand it's very easy for you to have a K here or a flush, maybe even a set. I think CTS will usually shut down after he is called twice here on this board texture. It seems like a ton of your range here would be trips/flush or better on river, and he's not going to try and bluff you off it.
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

CR the flop or the turn here. if CR flop, shove turn, if cr turn, it'll be a shove just about anywayws
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

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I like c/r the flop. But I would 3-bet PF. I don't like your reasoning for not 3-betting. He is more likely to have a good hand here, and will give you action PF.

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i don't know exactly how the op plays, but against a lot of players, if they 3-bet me there, it's AA or KK only. and good2cu is not scared to squeeze even an utg raiser

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I swear there was a post here a second ago where you said something like c/r the flop over reps your hand and leading the flop won't get him to bet his pure trash. Maybe I'm crazy, but anyways, I really don't agree that leading keeps him from raising his trash on you here.
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Old 02-08-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: butchered AA againsr cts 5-10 full tilt

I can see a flop c/r, but I think a turn c/r literally folds every single hand we're ahead of, and only very rarely folds a hand we beat.

With a flop c/r, at least he can put us on a draw, and maybe call with AK or something. I don't think I really like it there either, though, since it will be rare for him to call with a worse hand, especially given image.

Given PF (which I'm not really a fan of) I think the hand is well played, and the river is probably a fold. This doesn't really look like a very good triple barrel spot, and the K just improved any hand that you beat, that might value bet, into a better hand.
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