Pocket Queens $1000 Commerce NLHE

[bruce]

Haven't posted much because I've played very little lately.
Too many other things going on in my life.

$1000 buyin at the Commerce. 450 entrants with 2500 in starting stacks and 60 minute levels.

I've been card dead and I probably have a tight image.
I pick up red queens with two limpers. I'm on the button, blinds are 50/100 and I make it 600 with a 2400 stack before the start of the hand. Small blind calls and both limpers call.

Flop comes 2c 7c 9c

It's checked to me. Small blind is LAG and the other two players appear to somewhat tight and reasonable.

What's my best play? How, if any does my play change if I have black Queens.

Comments appreciated.

Bruce

[Mclane665]

You need to bet the pot to find out where you are but as the pot is big because of all the caller you have to go all in. Your most likely up against a flush draw so stick it in and hope for the best if called.

[Mclane665]

I would play the same if I had the Q of clubs too

[nath]

I just shove the flop, the pot is too big, if someone flopped a flush, they win

[Fiksdal]

The pot is now t1900 and you have t1800 left in your stack. You can not let another card come off on this monotone board. I think you need to push all-in here.

I'd be surprised if one of the villains checked a set or two pair on this board multiway. If one of them flopped a flush, good look to him.

[sapsuckah]

Yikes. I think I puke and push. There's 2500 in the pot and you have 1800 remaining. Flopped flushes are rare enough (even with three callers) that I can't play this with the expectation that someone's already there. You have enough left to make calling with a flush draw getting about 2.5-1 odds a mistake (assuming only one caller).

Same answer for black queens.

[skier_5]

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I just shove the flop, the pot is too big, if someone flopped a flush, they win

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[Shes92]

Push and hope whoever calls with a flush draw doesnt get there. Same with black Qs

[BlueEcho]

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You have enough left to make calling with a flush draw getting about 2.5-1 odds a mistake (assuming only one caller).


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This is wrong, if you push you are offering 2.4-1 and villian with a flush draw is getting to see turn and river giving him 1.86-1.

That said you have to push here.

[johnnyrocket]

you need to build a stack in tournies so you need to push here and take chances hoping for the best. if you dont push you pretty much concede losing the tourney.