Calling Time on Another Player

[ace93rd]

Recently I played in a 5/5NL Cash Game at a club in which it was myself and another player (which happend to be the person who ran the club) in a hand which got to river. There was about $600 in pot. On the river the player leads out all in for $500 making pot $1100 or $1700 if I called. Anyway, I start counting my chips and only 20 seconds pass before he calls time on me, giving me 1 minute to act. I ended up folding, but afterwards complained that generally you should give a player atleast a couple minutes before calling time on them. Is this standard what he did?

[jackal47]

no he sounds like a [censored]

[LasVegasMichael]

Although it is proper etiquette to wait a reasonable time before calling the clock, as far as I know, there is no set time limit before a clock can be called.

Normally, a person folds after being called a clock on. He may have known this and wanted you to fold, so he followed suit. Also, and going along with this normality, those that call a clock often do not want to be called (though this could also easily be a reverse tell).

[Jack Bando]

You usually should give the guy more than 20 seconds before calling time. So it's somewhat of a jerk move by him, but he does run the place, so complaining might be a bad move. (depends on if he'd listen or just toss you)

[ICallHimGamblor]

I am not saying you did this, but EVERY time I have seen this happen, the person has been taking several minutes almost every hand. Every obvious decision is dragged out until the table is ready to kill him. Finally, the player starts down the same path and someone calls a clock and the player is indignant: "I have only been thinking for 20 seconds". There was a great example during the Paris WPT event when Roland De Wolfe calls a clock on someone and he gets riled up.

Most of the time, it isn't that one hand. It is the cumulative effect of hours of douchery.

Again: Not saying you did this.... I wasn't there.

[SplawnDarts]

I do think that a 1min clock for multi-thousand NL is very short. I would be fine with a 5 min clock, and people could call it as soon as you went into the tank if they wanted. I would also be fine with a flat 5 minute limit to act before your hand is killed. However, in this case, I think he shot an angle.

[ace93rd]

Yeah, he definetly angle shot me...after the hand he even said that he called clock because it was part of his strategy to give me limited amount of time to think threw the hand, knowing that if i had more time to adequately go through the hand i would of came to the conclusion he was bluffing. And BTW I never took along time in any other hand, im not involved in many pots and the ones i am usually the aggressor and act farely quick.

As a result of all this i told him am never coming back to play at his place and give him the business, i think it is horrible etiquette to do what he did, especially considering he is the host.

[F0rtysxity]

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Yeah, he definetly angle shot me...after the hand he even said that he called clock because it was part of his strategy not to give me limited time to think threw the hand, knowing that if i had more time to adequately go through the hand i would of came to the conclusion he was bluffing. And BTW I never took along time in any other hand, im not involved in many pots and the ones i am usually the aggressor and act farely quick.

As a result of all this i told him am never coming back to play at his place and give him the business, i think it is horrible etiquette to do what he did, especially considering he is the host.

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If you have other options or places to play I think this is the way to go. On big decisions its customary for players to give one another more time to think, usually no time is called at all for the biggest pots. For the owner of an establishment or even a dealer (whose playing) it is twice as inappropriate since you are one of their customers/clients.

[Aces McGee]

This question isn't relevant to this thread because the player in question owns the club, but does the dealer/floor have to grant the clock request? If this happened in a casino, could the dealer or whomever say "No clock yet" or anything like that?

-McGee

[Percula]

When I read something like this, the first thing that comes to mind is what other things is this guy pulling that you haven't caught him at...