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Old 02-05-2007, 10:17 PM
EMc EMc is offline
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Default Semi-deep AA against good villain

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $22.05
UTG+1: $132.65
CO: $49.25
Button: $51.80
EMc: $78.70
BB: $109.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) EMc is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">EMc raises to $9</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($20.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">EMc bets $18</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($56.5, 2 players)
EMc checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($56.5, 2 players)

Notes on villain:

He is solid. Very aggro, 40/26 and running well. The only history we have is him once raising my CB and me folding, and me 2 barrel bluffing him. Whats your move on the river, and hows t he line so far?
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:25 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

You don't have much deep. Check river and pick off a bluff.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

Pre and flop are fine. I might lead flop smaller for metagame purposes (so that I don't have to risk as much in future RR pots if I whiff) but your bet size isn't bad. I think I lead turn depending on how often you think villain has AK/KQ here; if he's gonna float a lot and thinks you're w/t, c/r turn is good. As played, shove river. I don't think he's gonna try to push you off QQ/JJ.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

bet the river for value. whatever you think he'll call.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

Kurt what is the villain bluffing with here?

The flop was so dry that unless he was completely floating you, he has something here. Also, if he were floating you, he probably would have fired on the turn when hero slowed down. If we check and villain bets, I'd be inclined to think that we're behind his range.

I think we lose a significant amount of value here by letting him check behind with TT-QQ, KQ, AK, and that kind of crap.

Edit: Nevermind about the range, I think KQ and AK bets this river when we check.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

EMc, what's your line if the villain bets $45 on the turn?

I like the turn check but playing out of that spot is so read dependent. I feel dirty checking against an unknown because I always get lost and spew when he bets.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

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bet the river for value. whatever you think he'll call.

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NO, whatever maximizes your expection, read the Mathematics of poker junior [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

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Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $22.05
UTG+1: $132.65
CO: $49.25
Button: $51.80
EMc: $78.70
BB: $109.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) EMc is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">EMc raises to $9</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($20.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">EMc bets $18</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($56.5, 2 players)
EMc checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($56.5, 2 players)

Notes on villain:

He is solid. Very aggro, 40/26 and running well. The only history we have is him once raising my CB and me folding, and me 2 barrel bluffing him. Whats your move on the river, and hows t he line so far?

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Why aren't we betting turn? The 9 didn't change anything.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:10 AM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

We're checking the turn because we're 150BB deep with a one-pair hand.

I think villain bets 9x, Tx, and Kx on the end, maybe even QQ and JJ if he's as agro as EMC's read suggests. I want to minimize my exposure here and don't want to get reraised on the river. We miss some value when he checks through, but most of the hands he checks through won't be called if we value bet. 9x, KK, 55 are reraising us.

I haven't done all the maths, but my gut says check/call up to a PSB here.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Semi-deep AA against good villain

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We're checking the turn because we're 150BB deep with a one-pair hand.

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We just turned to two-pair and we shoud bet it.
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