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Old 02-05-2007, 12:47 AM
Tony Montana 22 Tony Montana 22 is offline
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Default NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

Villan is 37/8 over a small sample 60 hands


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($69.85)
Button ($30)
SB ($73.75)
BB ($8.50)
UTG ($59.40)
MP ($23.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, MP calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($6.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.5</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $57.9</font>, Hero ???
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:01 AM
Acein8ter Acein8ter is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

You need a FH to beat a flush.(Assuming that he has one)

Any 4 or Q to pair the board and the case 5 for quads. ~7 outs? (Not including runner runner that is paired) ~30% chance of hitting or so by the river. I'd fold unless you feel like gambling.
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

his range includes more than just flushes tho many ppl like the call here
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

yeah three hearts on the board and he bets big he has to have a flush here what kind of thinking is this call and don't be a nit
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

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yeah three hearts on the board and he bets big he has to have a flush here what kind of thinking is this call and don't be a nit

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im not sure what this means, but i don't think you can find a fold here, UTG is 37/8 pf so his range is pretty narrow- here's a quick pokerstove run
Board: 4h 5h Qh
Dead:

equity win tie
Hand 0: 20.940% 19.47% 01.47% {TT+, AQs+, KQs, QJs, JTs, AQo+}
Hand 1: 79.060% 77.59% 01.47% { 55 }

ive given UTG a decently wide PFR range as well, given that he's UTG. he could be making this move with any heart.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

What's villain's flop aggression factor? I call this a lot because he can have A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q, K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q.

Also Acein8ter, on the turn you pick up 3 more outs, calling this definitely isn't bad at this level for 120 bbs.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:23 AM
Acein8ter Acein8ter is offline
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

That's true... ~10 outs at the turn. Lets say he was playing the nut flush playing Axs. Would it be wise to call the AI $57 here?
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

very easy call.
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

You're calling roughly 50 to win 75.. 1.5:1 on ur money.. I'll say 8.5 odds since we pick up more on the turn:


8.5 x 4 = 32% equity
1.5:1 = ~40% to call if my math is right

So if his hand is face up.. it's a fold, but he has so many other hands in his range that it's a call.

(Someone correct my math please, I'm not a very good thinker this late at night.)
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Old 02-05-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: NL 50 set on mono flop vs shove

Your more likely to be against AQ here more than anything else. You will have lots of outs to a boat on the turn.
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