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Old 02-03-2007, 11:30 AM
jamiezig jamiezig is offline
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Default i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

Villian and I are playing together on a few tables. This smallish 3-bet is his standard. I've 4-bet him off of it before, so I know his 3-bet range is wide but that he'll fold it pre when he's light and gets 4-bet. He's 20/15/3 over 1400 hands tonight. I'm serious about wanting to check this down and will explain why. Am I falling victim to nit-think?


Full Tilt Poker
$2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $398
BB: $396
UTG: $181.60
MP: $412.30
Hero (CO): $825.70
BTN: $431

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, BTN folds, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $40</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $122</font>, BB calls $82

<font color="black">Flop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($246, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">

Hero?
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:40 AM
krasserpan krasserpan is offline
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Default Re: i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

The only hand, that beats you and which is in his hand range is KK. I don't believe he calls a 4-bet oop with a T.
I would CBet and call an all-in.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:46 AM
oyvindgee oyvindgee is offline
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Default Re: i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

I hope you aren't planning on checking behind three times. You can always check flop if you think that gets more value out of AK/QQ. Definitely put in some bets somewhere though and don't fold
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:48 AM
higHstaKesOwneR higHstaKesOwneR is offline
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Default Re: i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

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I hope you aren't planning on checking behind three times. You can always check flop if you think that gets more value out of AK/QQ. Definitely put in some bets somewhere though and don't fold

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which line do you think is more profitable against AK/QQ
cb flop and bet/raise turn or just bet the flop?
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:51 AM
oyvindgee oyvindgee is offline
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Default Re: i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

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I hope you aren't planning on checking behind three times. You can always check flop if you think that gets more value out of AK/QQ. Definitely put in some bets somewhere though and don't fold

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which line do you think is more profitable against AK/QQ
cb flop and bet/raise turn or just bet the flop?

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Opponent dependant, but I usually just bet flop for metagame reasons.
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:53 PM
jamiezig jamiezig is offline
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Default Re: i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

how much of his range can i really assign AK to? who calls a 4-bet with AK oop??? he either has to fold or push, imo.
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:43 PM
Nate_Dogg Nate_Dogg is offline
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Default Re: i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

If you are checking to trap then that's fine, just be prepared to bet/call any turn card. I'd probably bet about 1/2 the time here.
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

wow
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Old 02-03-2007, 06:47 PM
NicholasJ NicholasJ is offline
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Default Re: i 4-bet aces pre and...look to check it down?

WTF? Does he have KK every time here? No. Maybe, if he's really aggro you can get more out of him bluffing theturn/river, but betting out has to be the best.
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Old 02-03-2007, 07:21 PM
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lol
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