Ethics question

[BeNice]

FT deep 15-30 table 4 handed. Player A is on the right of player B, leaves and comes back 20 seconds later to sit on player B's left.

Thoughts? Is the seat switching game mandatory if it's EV+? Is it just bad etiquette? Standard in live FR games?

[aislephive]

It's fine.

[TetraFlare]

Why can't player B stand up and sit back to the left of player A?

[TheWorstPlayer]

it's fine if it's 4+ handed, is what i've heard and makes sense to me. shorter handed it just becomes musical chairs.

[BeNice]

TertraFlare: Player B can't stand up and sit back to the left of player A because there is no seat available to the left of player A.

TWP: Are you saying the only reason why you wouldn't do this is if player B can counteract? If so you just took the ethics part out of the question.

[pocketjesuits]

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it's fine if it's 4+ handed, is what i've heard and makes sense to me. shorter handed it just becomes musical chairs.

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Only if all three players are doing it, which is unlikely. Now heads-up is where it becomes a problem...

I say it's fine regardless. I love it when players decide that something is "unethical" - it is usualy because it is something that hurts their EV. Like that Prahlad thread a while back.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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TertraFlare: Player B can't stand up and sit back to the left of player A because there is no seat available to the left of player A.

TWP: Are you saying the only reason why you wouldn't do this is if player B can counteract? If so you just took the ethics part out of the question.

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in general, i think there is no ethical problem with changing seats. obv hu it doesnt make any sense. and 4-10 handed, i dont see any problems with it. maybe people would disagree 4-handed, i dont know, but i've seen other people say the same thing, so it seems to be fairly standard. but 3-handed, i wouldn't do it. the reason is two-fold. one, it is impractical. 3-handed, everyone can just keep jumping around and it will just become insane unless someone mans up and stops moving. and that leads to the second reason. since it could just go on forever, there is a decent chance that the person you move to get position on will not move. not because he doesnt want to, but because he thinks it's wrong or impractical to mvoe 3-handed. so that makes it unethical for you to move, since you're basically just taking advantage of the fact that he's being more mature about it than you are or whatever. so yea. i move 4-handed+ but not three-handed.

[JooWish622]

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TertraFlare: Player B can't stand up and sit back to the left of player A because there is no seat available to the left of player A.

TWP: Are you saying the only reason why you wouldn't do this is if player B can counteract? If so you just took the ethics part out of the question.

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in general, i think there is no ethical problem with changing seats. obv hu it doesnt make any sense. and 4-10 handed, i dont see any problems with it. maybe people would disagree 4-handed, i dont know, but i've seen other people say the same thing, so it seems to be fairly standard. but 3-handed, i wouldn't do it. the reason is two-fold. one, it is impractical. 3-handed, everyone can just keep jumping around and it will just become insane unless someone mans up and stops moving. and that leads to the second reason. since it could just go on forever, there is a decent chance that the person you move to get position on will not move. not because he doesnt want to, but because he thinks it's wrong or impractical to mvoe 3-handed. so that makes it unethical for you to move, since you're basically just taking advantage of the fact that he's being more mature about it than you are or whatever. so yea. i move 4-handed+ but not three-handed.

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I'll side with you if you can just get me the summer internship I wanted.

[T-God]

It's annoying, tacky and insulting to the fish.

[LurkerAnon]

a) this would never happen live because casinos let 3-handed action all of once a year.

b) if it were to happen...playing musical chairs and posting extra blinds = -EV