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Old 01-31-2007, 09:38 AM
Matress Matress is offline
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Default Rate my Play versus Allin3High

I watched my friend play this hand on Party...WE disagreed on the play....
I wont say anything about it, other than reads and how it played out...
PLease comment... please.......>}}}}}}))>:>

OK. It's 2/4 6max
Stacks -400

Friend gets JJ in the Small blind.

Allin3high a good scandi TAG makes it 16 to go UTG+1
ABC vanilla player makes it $45 in MP

MY friend calls. Allin3high calls.
Flop( 135) - 7 4 2

My friend leads for $110

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Old 01-31-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: Rate my Play versus Allin3High

You are bluffing.

Rainbow flop?
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: Rate my Play versus Allin3High

check.

I've changed my mind, bet/fold
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Old 01-31-2007, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Rate my Play versus Allin3High

Reads on MP? I don`t like the preflop call and would check the flop.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:11 AM
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Reads on MP? I don`t like the preflop call and would check the flop.

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You Fold JJ in that situation... is it because you fear a 4bet by original raiser???
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: Rate my Play versus Allin3High

It's because a vanilla ABC player raising a MP raiser from the CO has TT+/AQ+ here. We don't have odds to look for a set. Do we think we will be able to get more money in ahead postflop than we will lose when behind? Are we planning to bluff him out on A-high flop a good amount of the time? It will be 3 handed to the flop often, and some time we will put in 45 only to have to fold to a 4-bet from MP.

I don't know if it's correct to fold JJ here, but these might be some reasons to do so.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: Rate my Play versus Allin3High

I fold preflop, as played I like a bet/fold but prefer something like 90.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:26 AM
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If your bet is called, I'm guessing you are done with the hand?
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Rate my Play versus Allin3High

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I watched my friend play this hand on Party...WE disagreed on the play....
I wont say anything about it, other than reads and how it played out...
PLease comment... please.......>}}}}}}))>:>

OK. It's 2/4 6max
Stacks -400

Friend gets JJ in the Small blind.

Allin3high a good scandi TAG makes it 16 to go UTG+1
ABC vanilla player makes it $45 in MP

MY friend calls. Allin3high calls.
Flop( 135) - 7 4 2

My friend leads for $110

Comments! Thoughts.

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Ugly situation. You might fold preflop since you just know it will get ugly, or 4-bet to take it down right there if you think MP is 3-betting light. Only if MP is a pretty passive player do I like the preflop call, since I will get paid for a set but not charged too heavily by QQ-AA when undercards flop. As played I think I like the flop lead, then shut down UI. I lead just 90-100 though.
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Rate my Play versus Allin3High

Why is leading flop ok?
Sure, the reraiser is less likely to continuation bet in this spot, so your not losing too much value here...

But, my friend fired because he "has Jacks" on a low board…He "would have folded to flop 3-bet"..and "slowed down on turn"
So was it a bluff or value bet or a bet to deprive free cards??????
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