tough turn spot....

[drbk2]

Taking a break so I'll post another hand....

I played a little with cutoff yesterday and he is the classic reasonable preflop/horrendous postflop player, incapable of 2nd level or higher thinking. Absolutely no read on the small blind.

$40/80 half kill must move. Cutoff opens, small blind thinks for a long time and calls. I call 76o in the BB.

Flop: J 7 6 rainbow. Checked to me and I lead. Cutoff calls quickly in a way I know 100% sure he's waiting to raise the turn. Small blind calls very quickly as well.

Turn: 3c putting two clubs. Small blind checks I lead again. Cutoff raises as expected and the small blind insta 3 bets. My play?

[Part_Time]

Looks like a set. Fold?

[vmacosta]

Not-so-tough fold.

It's live poker, so the chances that SB check/3bet the turn with just one pair is super unlikely. Maybe weirdplayed AA, but you have 4 outs at most the vast majority of the time. 11:2 or whatever isn't gonna cut it.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

Cap it! BTW, when I say cap it, I actually mean fold the turn cuz its all over.

[SA125]

Some give no reads no credit. I go the opposite. See what he shows down and go from there.
If he's sane, what do you beat? Then again, they don't usually think about whether to raise pf, it's to call/fold. So what hand does he 3 bet here that took time to think over pf? 45s? Seems unlikely, doesn't it?

[brettbrettr]

fold.

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Some give no reads no credit. I go the opposite. See what he shows down and go from there.
If he's sane, what do you beat? Then again, they don't usually think about whether to raise pf, it's to call/fold. So what hand does he 3 bet here that took time to think over pf? 45s? Seems unlikely, doesn't it?

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Although I agree with you, from the read and also from experience playing at CA we need to be briefly aware that 45s is actually within the villain's range - I've seen it far too many times there and it's often a similar physical tell - the long decision followed by a call is either the player talking himself into calling with something dire like suited/unsuited connectors or planning a trap post flop.

With that said assuming the hero is playing on - whats his best course of action? I often fold here because I dont like being the monkey in the middle, but I think its a bad fold more often than not in a large pot.

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[Hass]

drbk2,

Were you in the 4 seat of the main game Tues night wearing a white jacket at about 10pm to 12pm?

[drbk2]

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drbk2,

Were you in the 4 seat of the main game Tues night wearing a white jacket at about 10pm to 12pm?

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nope, wasn't me

[SA125]

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With that said assuming the hero is playing on - whats his best course of action? I often fold here because I dont like being the monkey in the middle, but I think its a bad fold more often than not in a large pot.

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May be wrong, but I fold too and hope to see what he's ch/3 betting with.