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Old 01-30-2007, 12:16 PM
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Default 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

Its hands like these that destroy my win rate. The villian here is 14/3 over a pretty large sample. His reraising range is likely just AK(maybe only AKS), AA, KK and the not as likely QQ.

On the flop after my check raise, I literally said outloud he has to have aces in yet the other side of my brain took over and hit the call button. The best possible scenario is for a split and im dead to AA or KK. Anyone else having problems with these situations? I really don't think I'm being results orientated here.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $34.55
Hero: $59.25
MP1: $44.80
MP2: $43.15
CO: $44.15
Button: $61.95
SB: $74.50
BB: $17.75

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $4.5</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises all-in $38.65</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($87.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $87.05)


River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($87.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $87.05)


Results:
Final pot: $87.05
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:21 PM
RAHZero RAHZero is offline
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

TPTK is definitely no good against a player like this with that action on that flop. I don't really like calling a reraise with AKo, but folding to such a small raise is pretty weak. On a flop like this, against this player, I'd probably lead into him and fold to a raise.
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

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....villian here is 14/3...

...Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $4.5</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises all-in $38.65</font>...

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Old 01-30-2007, 12:28 PM
Sneds9 Sneds9 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

Not point having stats if you don't use them. At least you recognise that you probably should have folded to the flop 3bet.

I have forced myself to start folding AK/AQ against people w/ low raising percentages.

You'd be better off having a small pocket pair here so you can spike a set and stack him.
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:55 PM
Warteen Warteen is offline
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

Check-raising TPTK = grrrrrr.
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Old 01-30-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

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Check-raising TPTK against a set-mining nit = grrrrrr.

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Old 01-30-2007, 02:01 PM
Messy Harry Messy Harry is offline
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

I don't know what frustrates me more: not having a read or not following one I have.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

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The best possible scenario is for a split and im dead to AA or KK.

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If you really believe that than that's the point where you can get out of there before you lose $$$ to a set.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

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Check-raising TPTK against a set-mining nit = grrrrrr.

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Been getting check/raised with TPGK alot lately, OP I'm not speaking to you but the donkies have really seemed to be out in force on Pokerstars lately.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:12 PM
Antinome Antinome is offline
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Default Re: 50NL I think I found out where my winrate went

If I were villian in this hand I would be seriously puzzled by the c/r unless I held KK. With AA I'd be thinking A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], KK, 33, 44. I guess I push as well but I'd be sick seeing that turn. AK is sooo obviously not good here.
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