dumb turn spot vs. schneids

[PokerBob]

live 30. button is schneids. he has said he is going to 3bet me all night long, and has been doing it liberally, but not every time. SB is a huge fish who will not fold his blind for any number of bets, even if he is only dealt one card.

I open Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the CO, schneids 3bets, SB calls, BB folds, I 4bet, schneids calls, sb calls.

flop 3 ways(13sb): K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
check, bet, call, call.

turn 3 ways (8bb): T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

check, I bet, schneids raises, SB tanks and then calls 2 cold, I.......

[sweetjazz]

Call.

[sonartec]

i raise this every day of the week.

[wackjob]

I 3-bang the turn & call down if he 4-bets and I don't improve.

[DpR]

Seems pretty criminal not to 3 bet.

[goofball]

My jerk response was raise too, but now I'm going to ask the 'raise' people to explain why exactly we are raising?

[milesdyson]

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Call.

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I agree with this.

[HOWMANY]

I think you have both of them beat an alarmingly high amount of the time here. The times you don't have both of them beat is when you and Schneids both have the straight against the sucker's crap and you are freerolling Schneids. If Schneids has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Qx or just any AQ and the retard has the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], oh well, just spike 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the river. It's really pretty hard for him to have a flush here since we've got all the broadway ones covered except the Ace. 78/89/A6-A9 are in his 3bet range I assume? A2-A5/67 as well or is that too wide?

I've read a lot of posts lately where people do crazy stuff and I think they should just show it down cheaply. In this one I'm afraid you probably showed it down cheaply while I think some crazy stuff might have been in order.

[Municipal Hare]

Bloating this turn means cutting off your nose to spite Schneids.

Give the board another look. Notice how it loaded up but nobody backed off. Middling flushes and AQ are now plausible threats. More importantly, if one of their four cards is a queen, you're being collectively freerolled against more often than you're freerolling. Beating the field outright with the turned second nut one-card straight and then getting action on top of it would be the parlay of the day. No 3-town.

[PokerSparky]

Schneids isn't raising a hand that PB is ahead of on the turn IMO. Call the turn and spike an A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (probably in one of your opponents hands) or a 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the river.