AA raised on flop. Is folding nuts?

loveinvain · #1 01-29-2007, 11:25 AM

Villain is 21/14/2.18 over 300+ hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($250.56)
UTG ($204.72)
MP ($252.40)
CO ($321.52)
Button ($136.25)
SB ($609.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, CO raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14, CO calls $10.

Flop: ($33) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $22, CO raises to $66,

HERO?

Abramovic · #2 01-29-2007, 11:26 AM

Dont make such a crappy raise preflop. Problem solved.

As played, Im afraid you have to push.

Praetor · #3 01-29-2007, 11:28 AM

pre-flop raise size blows

tannenj · #4 01-29-2007, 11:30 AM

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Dont make such a crappy raise preflop. Problem solved.

As played, Im afraid you have to push.

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loveinvain · #5 01-29-2007, 11:37 AM

Yes preflop raise was crappy. I knew I would be told this without asking and you're right. How much is good? 20? 24?

Anyhow, thanks for the responses so far, 3 answers in 5 minutes, wow! I sure do appreciate it.

Abramovic · #6 01-29-2007, 11:38 AM

Id probably do about 22 preflop here.

jd2b2006 · #7 01-29-2007, 11:43 AM

Reraise preflop to 20-22, bet 30-35 on flop, call a push.

wdead · #8 01-29-2007, 11:46 AM

rr more preflop. i like a fold on this flop.

loveinvain · #9 01-29-2007, 11:52 AM

OK, I agree raising to 22 is better but is the problem really solved?

General rule - call with PP's for 5% of effective stack right? So villain has to call 16 more which is maybe 6.5% of his stack. I suspect most people would still call 16 more here with most PP's so I still would have essentially the same problem on the flop no?

I know that I would call 16 more with most (maybe all) PP's here. Leak?

Maybe I should raise to 26?

Abramovic · #10 01-29-2007, 11:57 AM

I think calling 16 more with any PP with 125 BB stacks is a leak. If stacks were 200BB, then it could be justifiable against the right opponent.