$33s - QQ hits K88 flop, I call passively

[K䲰䮥n]

Villain is 42/12 in this tourney.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2220
UTG+1: t4260
MP1: t2340
MP2: t3640
CO: t2030
Button: t1770
Hero: t2050
BB: t1690

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t300</font>, BB calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t350)</font>.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t600, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t400</font>, Hero calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1000)</font>.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1400, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in t990</font>, Hero calls t990 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2390)</font>.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t3380, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t3380)


Results:
Final pot: t3380

[AMT]

bet/fold or bet/call flop (depends how crazy he is i guess)?

[K䲰䮥n]

Dude, if I'm ahead I'll get [censored] of more value by check/calling, arent I?

[AMT]

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Dude, if I'm ahead I'll get [censored] of more value by check/calling, arent I?

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if hes that type of crazy (will always bet with air when checked to) then its fine, yeah

[DerrtySlime]

bet out. Don't take the line, i have QQ so i'm going to showdown. Normal players will not be loosely calling bets on k88 boards so just take it down or get out knowing ur behind.

[Conspiracy]

I can't see how betting out could be the best line here, ever . If you want to go all the way, check/calling has to be better.

VERY standard IMHO.

[K䲰䮥n]

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bet out. Don't take the line, i have QQ so i'm going to showdown. Normal players will not be loosely calling bets on k88 boards so just take it down or get out knowing ur behind.

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That makes no sense.

Why do I bet? Is it:

a) for value
b) to make the villain lay down a better hand

[terrellk11]

It's to keep him from robbing you blind with AQ, AJ, TT, or any other hand he missed with but would bet after you check to take the pot from you.

If you check and he bets, you have no idea if he has a King or is just betting to take the pot away from you.

If you bet and he calls or raises, you're beat and you can get the hell out of dodge.

[K䲰䮥n]

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It's to keep him from robbing you blind with AQ, AJ, TT, or any other hand he missed with but would bet after you check to take the pot from you.

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Well that's [censored] reason why I'm check/CALLING damnit.

[mjm]

If I know villian is a maniac I will often check call it down and expect to win a good % of the time. If I don't have a read I like to bet out with the intention of shutting down if called or folding to a re-raise.

With the bet out line you are never getting a better hand to fold, and you are not likely to get much value...I guess I get bluffed off the best hand quite a bit here, but I prefer that to passively calling two streets for most of my stack hoping villian is a maniac...of course if had a read it may be different.