stars: moving up from 27s to 60s, need advice

[ycjason]

hi,
I am thinking about moving up from 27s to the 60s, just wondering what kind of changes would I see in the higher buyins. I play the usual tight early and pushbot style in the 27s. below are some of my stats so far.

------------- 16s ------------------------
games played: 535 (mostly 8-table continously)
ROI: 24.4%
ITM: 39.4%
avg: 4.37
blb% 80.5
Finishes: 19.1/11.4/9/9.5/14.6/13.1/11.8/7.7/3.9

-------------- 27s --------------
games: 518 (mostly 8-table continously)
ROI: 19.9%
ITM: 39.2%
Avg: 4.47
Bbl% 78.4%
Finishes: 18/11.6/9.7/10.8/10.6/12.7/13.1/9.7/3.9

[Daleroxxu]

Play a few thousand more, read the "Should I move up? What to expect when I do? Should I play more tables?" section in the FAQ, then decide.

[TruFloridaGator]

Very impressive results, albeit small samples. How recent were these?
Regardless, be prepared for much larger swings & your first distro is going to drop a lot, so your ROI is going to go way down. You've been running good ITM to begin with if your first is that high. I'd expect somewhere around a 10% roi but it could be be better or worse. I'd add a bit of table selection at later hours because of the amount of regulars at the 60s and also if the donkeys stop finding there way on to Stars. Good luck. Handle the swings better than I did. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[ycjason]

thanks, those are just results from stars, I did play 2000+ games from party and FT and pacific before with similar results, but mostly in the <20 buyins.

also, those results are basically from the last 30 days.

here are all the games I had in tourny manager (exclude pacific and some of the earlier games I have played on party where I lost all the hand history)

also, this data includes 331 games from FT with ROI of 9.5% which I don't think is correct, I played way more than 300 games on FT and the data just doesn't look right. it showed that once I had 8 consecutive wins (that's just impossible), and I remember seeing like 800 tournies were not imported from FT for errors. Anyway, I don't know how to remove them from the total results, and it's a small sample, shouldn't change the total results that much.

games played: 2673
ROI: 18.3%
ITM: 38.6%
avg: 4.5
bbl% 79.6%
finishes (10th is deceptively low because many of the games are 9-handed)
18.7/11.5/9.4/10.1/11.3/12.6/11.7/8.3/4.5/1.8

[Conspiracy]

Wait until INW85 has loaded his tables, then load yours.

[TruFloridaGator]

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Play a few thousand more, read the "Should I move up? What to expect when I do? Should I play more tables?" section in the FAQ, then decide.

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Thanks, but I think an individual thread is certainly alright with how different the SnG landscape is right now.

[Conspiracy]

Super-OT: What ROI do you guys think is attainble at the 60's these days? I need to boost my confidence, running at ~4% when 9-tabling atm.

[ycjason]

good advice. first time tried to load the table and I saw INW85 loading at least 6 tables, so I came back after 10 minutes and started mine..

strange, just finished my first set in 60s, didn't really see much difference in skill level from 27s, couple of times early in tourny, I saw 6-7 players limp, and sometimes one player makes a 3x raise, 4 players calls, and only averaged 3 regulars on each table, I guess this is just a small sample, if all the tables are like that, I should be just fine. oh yeah, and if my luck stays the same, I don't care who's on the table, 65% ROI so far (6 games [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

[DevinLake]

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Play a few thousand more

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Why?

[ycjason]

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Play a few thousand more, read the "Should I move up? What to expect when I do? Should I play more tables?" section in the FAQ, then decide.

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for all the player who have moved up the ladder, do you guys really play 1000+ games at each level? Just wondering