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Old 01-26-2007, 09:22 AM
OtZman OtZman is offline
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Default 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

UTG is 14.58/1.04/0.5 over 96 hands. The reason I play somewhat shortstacked here is because I've just moved up, and I'm following the advice in NLHE:T&P to buy-in a little short in the beginning.

How is this pf all-in? Should I just have re-raised enough to put the shortstacks AI, or is an AI better to fold out UTG and isolate vs. the two shortstacks?



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Stack sizes:
UTG: $104.30
CO: $13.33
Button: $105.83
SB: $11.85
Hero: $66.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $4</font>, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $66.6</font>
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:24 AM
Freelancer Freelancer is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

I guess its fine, but I don't play short so I really don't know...
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

I think it's fine.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

Why not make a normal reraise, look at CO + SB stacks. Shouldn't matter too much though...

I guess UTG limped in with his AA/KK? :-)
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:12 AM
OtZman OtZman is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

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Why not make a normal reraise, look at CO + SB stacks. Shouldn't matter too much though...

I guess UTG limped in with his AA/KK? :-)

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Spot on, sir! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] KK to be exact. I felt like he would've raised pf with such a hand like 99% of the time so I wasn't even considering AA/KK as possible holdings.

Perhaps I should've raised instead of shoving, but I was afraid UTG might call and leave me OOP. Then I wouldn't know what to do if I missed the flop. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:16 AM
skegvegaspoker skegvegaspoker is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

I think this advice in NLT&amp;P isn't very good. In general, I would argue buying in short requires more new knowledge about the game than moving up does.
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

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I think this advice in NLT&amp;P isn't very good. In general, I would argue buying in short requires more new knowledge about the game than moving up does.

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Yeah, I feel I've had to play differently from before, a bit more tight ect, but I played pretty tight on my previous level as well, so somehow I feel like I'm learning some useful things playing shortstacked. For example that my 100BB play is a bit too tight, and that I'm not fully using the advantages of being deepstacked.

At the same time I feel a bit more comfortable buying in for the same amout I used to do one level down ($50 at 50NL) while getting used to the feel of 100NL, the new betting sizes ect.
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Old 01-26-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

I don't see the problem with just calling and seeing a flop. A push here for 66BB looks very AKish and you have enough money to play a raised pot. If you re-raised (making it say $10 to go) and you don't get a pair on the flop you are in a difficult position (a $30 to $45 pot on the flop) with only about $50 left. If you reraise and miss there are only really two plays; bluff all-in on the flop or try to check it down. Neither options is all that appealing.

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Old 01-26-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

UTG raises 1% of his hands and plays only 14% of them. When he limps UTG its a monster. Regardless i dont like your push unless you are doing it with a wide range of hands.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:06 AM
DoGMaTiCMD DoGMaTiCMD is offline
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Default Re: 100NL 6max: How\'s this pf shove with AKo?

I don't really know. It doesn't seem to matter so much. I'd probably just make the normal raise, but what would you guys do if reraised?
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