PP $11 @ work. Bubble hands (long).

[P.Dirty]

Definately trying to take advantage of my big stack on the bubble. I'm trying not to be results oriented here, I think everything looks OK, but if anything looks incredibly wrong here I'd like to know.

TIA,

P.

***** Hand History for Game 3516068525 *****
150/300 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:34:59 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (1305)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1855)
Seat 7: Hero (3295)
Seat 8: Donk (1545)
Luckbox 1 posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 2s, 5h ]
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero folds.
Donk raises (300) to 300
Luckbox 1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
Luckbox 1 balance 1155, lost 150 (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1855, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 3295, didn't bet (folded)
Donk balance 1695, bet 300, collected 450, net +150

***** Hand History for Game 3516069019 *****
150/300 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:35:13 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (1155)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1855)
Seat 7: Hero (3295)
Seat 8: Donk (1695)
Luckbox 2 posts small blind (75)
Hero posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Jc, Jd ]
Donk raises (400) to 400
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero raises (3145) to 3295
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3770 with Hero
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3770
Luckbox 1 balance 1155, didn't bet (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1780, lost 75 (folded)
Hero balance 3770, bet 3295, collected 3770, net +475
Donk balance 1295, lost 400 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516069822 *****
150/300 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:35:36 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (1155)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1780)
Seat 7: Hero (3770)
Seat 8: Donk (1295)
Hero posts small blind (75)
Donk posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8c, Kh ]
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero raises (3695) to 3770
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3920 with Hero
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3920
Luckbox 1 balance 1155, didn't bet (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1780, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 3920, bet 3770, collected 3920, net +150
Donk balance 1145, lost 150 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516070416 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:35:53 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (1155)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1780)
Seat 7: Hero (3920)
Seat 8: Donk (1145)
Donk posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 1 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qd, Tc ]
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero raises (3920) to 3920
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4220 with Hero
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4220
Luckbox 1 balance 955, lost 200 (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1780, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 4220, bet 3920, collected 4220, net +300
Donk balance 1045, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516070832 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:36:05 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (955)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1780)
Seat 7: Hero (4220)
Seat 8: Donk (1045)
Luckbox 1 posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 2 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kc, 6c ]
Hero raises (4220) to 4220
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4520 with Hero
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4520
Luckbox 1 balance 855, lost 100 (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1580, lost 200 (folded)
Hero balance 4520, bet 4220, collected 4520, net +300
Donk balance 1045, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516071192 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:36:15 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (855)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1580)
Seat 7: Hero (4520)
Seat 8: Donk (1045)
Luckbox 2 posts small blind (100)
Hero posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8c, 5d ]
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
Luckbox 1 balance 855, didn't bet (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1480, lost 100 (folded)
Hero balance 4620, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
Donk balance 1045, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516071625 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:36:27 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (855)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1480)
Seat 7: Hero (4620)
Seat 8: Donk (1045)
Hero posts small blind (100)
Donk posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Jd, 3h ]
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero raises (4520) to 4620
Hero is all-In.
Donk calls (845)
Donk is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2090 with Donk
Creating Side Pot 1 with $3575 with Hero
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 4h, 3c, 8s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qd ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7s ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2090 | Side Pot 1: 3575
Board: [ 4h 3c 8s Qd 7s ]
Luckbox 1 balance 855, didn't bet (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1480, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 3575, bet 4620, collected 3575, lost -1045 [ Jd 3h ] [ a pair of threes -- Qd,Jd,8s,3h,3c ]
Donk balance 2090, bet 1045, collected 2090, net +1045 [ Qh Qc ] [ three of a kind, queens -- Qh,Qc,Qd,8s,7s ]

***** Hand History for Game 3516072232 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:36:44 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (855)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1480)
Seat 7: Hero (3575)
Seat 8: Donk (2090)
Donk posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 1 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ks, 3h ]
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero raises (3575) to 3575
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 calls (655)
Luckbox 1 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $1810 with Luckbox 1
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2720 with Hero
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, 8d, Ts ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Js ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1810 | Side Pot 1: 2720
Board: [ Td 8d Ts Qc Js ]
Luckbox 1 balance 1810, bet 855, collected 1810, net +955 [ Tc Jc ] [ a full house, Tens full of jacks -- Jc,Js,Tc,Td,Ts ]
Luckbox 2 balance 1480, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 2720, bet 3575, collected 2720, lost -855 [ Ks 3h ] [ a pair of tens -- Ks,Qc,Js,Td,Ts ]
Donk balance 1990, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516072893 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:37:03 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (1810)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1480)
Seat 7: Hero (2720)
Seat 8: Donk (1990)
Luckbox 1 posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 2 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qc, Jc ]
Hero raises (2720) to 2720
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 calls (1710)
Luckbox 1 is all-In.
Luckbox 2 calls (1280)
Luckbox 2 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $4440 with Luckbox 2
Creating Side Pot 1 with $660 with Luckbox 1
Creating Side Pot 2 with $910 with Hero
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, 6s, Ad ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5h ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4440 | Side Pot 1: 660 | Side Pot 2: 910
Board: [ 7d 6s Ad 4c 5h ]
Luckbox 1 balance 660, bet 1810, collected 660, lost -1150 [ Kc Jd ] [ high card ace with king kicker -- Ad,Kc,Jd,7d,6s ]
Luckbox 2 balance 4440, bet 1480, collected 4440, net +2960 [ Qd Qh ] [ a pair of queens -- Ad,Qd,Qh,7d,6s ]
Hero balance 910, bet 2720, collected 910, lost -1810 [ Qc Jc ] [ high card ace -- Ad,Qc,Jc,7d,6s ]
Donk balance 1990, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516073497 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:37:19 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (660)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (4440)
Seat 7: Hero (910)
Seat 8: Donk (1990)
Luckbox 2 posts small blind (100)
Hero posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qc, 6d ]
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 raises (660) to 660
Luckbox 1 is all-In.
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero folds.
Creating Main Pot with $960 with Luckbox 1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 960
Luckbox 1 balance 960, bet 660, collected 960, net +300
Luckbox 2 balance 4340, lost 100 (folded)
Hero balance 710, lost 200 (folded)
Donk balance 1990, didn't bet (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516074129 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:37:37 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (960)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (4340)
Seat 7: Hero (710)
Seat 8: Donk (1990)
Hero posts small blind (100)
Donk posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 6s, Ts ]
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
Luckbox 1 balance 960, didn't bet (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 4340, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 610, lost 100 (folded)
Donk balance 2090, bet 200, collected 300, net +100

***** Hand History for Game 3516074538 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:37:48 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (960)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (4340)
Seat 7: Hero (610)
Seat 8: Donk (2090)
Donk posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 1 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 4s, Jh ]
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero folds.
Donk folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
Luckbox 1 balance 1060, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
Luckbox 2 balance 4340, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 610, didn't bet (folded)
Donk balance 1990, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3516075355 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:38:12 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (1060)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (4340)
Seat 7: Hero (610)
Seat 8: Donk (1990)
Luckbox 1 posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 2 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 2c, 3d ]
Hero folds.
Donk raises (500) to 500
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 800
Luckbox 1 balance 960, lost 100 (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 4140, lost 200 (folded)
Hero balance 610, didn't bet (folded)
Donk balance 2290, bet 500, collected 800, net +300

***** Hand History for Game 3516076308 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:38:39 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (960)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (4140)
Seat 7: Hero (610)
Seat 8: Donk (2290)
Luckbox 2 posts small blind (150)
Hero posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ts, 5h ]
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 raises (700) to 700
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero calls (310)
Hero is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $1370 with Hero
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 9c, 2s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2c ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1370 | Side Pot 1: 90
Board: [ Qc 9c 2s 4c 2c ]
Luckbox 1 balance 1720, bet 700, collected 1460, net +760 [ 3d Ah ] [ a pair of twos with ace kicker -- Ah,Qc,9c,2s,2cAh(kicker card) ]
Luckbox 2 balance 3990, lost 150 (folded)
Hero balance 0, lost 610 [ Ts 5h ] [ a pair of twos -- Qc,Ts,9c,2s,2c ]
Donk balance 2290, didn't bet (folded)

[durron597]

[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 3516072232 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:36:44 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (855)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1480)
Seat 7: Hero (3575)
Seat 8: Donk (2090)
Donk posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 1 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ks, 3h ]
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero raises (3575) to 3575
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 calls (655)
Luckbox 1 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $1810 with Luckbox 1
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2720 with Hero
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, 8d, Ts ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Js ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1810 | Side Pot 1: 2720
Board: [ Td 8d Ts Qc Js ]
Luckbox 1 balance 1810, bet 855, collected 1810, net +955 [ Tc Jc ] [ a full house, Tens full of jacks -- Jc,Js,Tc,Td,Ts ]
Luckbox 2 balance 1480, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 2720, bet 3575, collected 2720, lost -855 [ Ks 3h ] [ a pair of tens -- Ks,Qc,Js,Td,Ts ]
Donk balance 1990, lost 100 (folded)


[/ QUOTE ]

Fold, the shorty is the guy in the BB, it's not worth the risk to have him call you with a hand you aren't crushing (like happened) and lose your grip on the table. Plus folding helps your image a little bit (OK he's not pushing EVERY hand).

[ QUOTE ]

***** Hand History for Game 3516074129 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:37:37 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (960)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (4340)
Seat 7: Hero (710)
Seat 8: Donk (1990)
Hero posts small blind (100)
Donk posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 6s, Ts ]
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
Luckbox 1 balance 960, didn't bet (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 4340, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 610, lost 100 (folded)
Donk balance 2090, bet 200, collected 300, net +100

[/ QUOTE ]

Push, you're suited and you have ten high and this may be your last chance to get a headsup pot.

[Requin]

I agree with durron, and also

[ QUOTE ]
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:37:03 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (1810)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1480)
Seat 7: Hero (2720)
Seat 8: Donk (1990)
Luckbox 1 posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 2 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qc, Jc ]
Hero raises (2720) to 2720
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 calls (1710)
Luckbox 1 is all-In.
Luckbox 2 calls (1280)
Luckbox 2 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $4440 with Luckbox 2
Creating Side Pot 1 with $660 with Luckbox 1
Creating Side Pot 2 with $910 with Hero
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7d, 6s, Ad ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5h ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4440 | Side Pot 1: 660 | Side Pot 2: 910
Board: [ 7d 6s Ad 4c 5h ]
Luckbox 1 balance 660, bet 1810, collected 660, lost -1150 [ Kc Jd ] [ high card ace with king kicker -- Ad,Kc,Jd,7d,6s ]
Luckbox 2 balance 4440, bet 1480, collected 4440, net +2960 [ Qd Qh ] [ a pair of queens -- Ad,Qd,Qh,7d,6s ]
Hero balance 910, bet 2720, collected 910, lost -1810 [ Qc Jc ] [ high card ace -- Ad,Qc,Jc,7d,6s ]
Donk balance 1990, didn't bet (folded)


[/ QUOTE ]

I feel like this is a fold too, seeing as you just pushed the last six hands in a row, and the very hand before this was that K3 hand that should have been folded. Villains probably think your pushing close to 100% of hands here.

[P.Dirty]

Thanks for the advice guys. Not many feelings worse than having over half the chips and not cashing.

P.

[45suited]

Pay attention to who is in the blinds and what stacks they have. Unless the table was very loose, I think that against most players you can do some standard / 2.5BB raises more often.


Many times, I will raise to 400 here with any two. You'll take the pot down enough that this should be a good play. Read dependent of course, but even the BB is not so short that he will be calling with many hands here.

[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 3516068525 *****
150/300 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:34:59 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (1305)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1855)
Seat 7: Hero (3295)
Seat 8: Donk (1545)
Luckbox 1 posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 2s, 5h ]
Luckbox 2 folds.
Hero folds.
Donk raises (300) to 300
Luckbox 1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
Luckbox 1 balance 1155, lost 150 (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1855, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance 3295, didn't bet (folded)
Donk balance 1695, bet 300, collected 450, net +150

[/ QUOTE ]


Even here, a push is fine, but I honestly think that against most players, a mini-raise works just as well. If you raise to 400, the shortstacks are getting out of the way (or they'll have a hand that they would have called a push with anyway). BB guy is not going to want to risk his chip position without a very good hand. Sometimes, I'll even limp here, betting any flop when checked to. Much less risky than pushing, IMO, and damn near as effective, especially against low limit guys who aren't going to push from the BB just because you limped or mini-raised.

This is probably counter to most 2+2 philosophy but I think that vs most players, it works just fine. You gotta remember, the other guys are afraid of you, you can use this to your advantage in other ways than just pushing.

[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 3516070832 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 19973636) - Wed Feb 08 09:36:05 EST 2006
Table Table 66813 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Luckbox 1 (955)
Seat 6: Luckbox 2 (1780)
Seat 7: Hero (4220)
Seat 8: Donk (1045)
Luckbox 1 posts small blind (100)
Luckbox 2 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kc, 6c ]
Hero raises (4220) to 4220
Hero is all-In.
Donk folds.
Luckbox 1 folds.
Luckbox 2 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4520 with Hero
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4520
Luckbox 1 balance 855, lost 100 (folded)
Luckbox 2 balance 1580, lost 200 (folded)
Hero balance 4520, bet 4220, collected 4520, net +300
Donk balance 1045, didn't bet (folded)

[/ QUOTE ]