Line check these two hands (10nl stars)

[snakekilla88]

I basically busto'd my stars roll so I am now playing 10nl, you will see me post alot more in unl from now on.


Hand1
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($17.45)
MP ($12.95)
Button ($10.85)
SB ($7.90)
Hero ($9.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.5</font>, SB calls $0.45, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.9</font>, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls $1.40.

Flop: ($4.40) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.40) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.40) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $13.40
-I go for the squeeze preflop, but this SB just wont go away! How often do you guys if ever squeeze at 10nl.

Hand2
Readless [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($17.30)
SB ($12.90)
BB ($2.90)
UTG ($10.35)
MP ($12.80)
Hero ($10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.15) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.6</font>, MP calls $1.10.

Turn: ($4.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.9 (All-In)</font>
Cost MP $8 to call.
-GIven how hes played it I think he most likely has a Q here and if I bet in relation to pot hes instacalling me so a overbet semibluff push might be the best line here. Most 10nl players should be instafolding all non 2 pair hands, or am i wrong?

[Unknown Soldier]

hand 1: fold pf, what are you doing with that raise?! As played fine

hand 2: flop raise (and turn)is very marginal, only do this with a read at 10NL.

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Most 10nl players should be instafolding all non 2 pair hands, or am i wrong?

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you are wrong.

[chanchuan]

Hmm... you might be overthinking it a bit IMO... Squeeze? "in relation to the pot"? How many average 10NL guys pay attention to "relation to the pot" if they're say, habitually betting/raising like: 10c/20c/30c/40c in a 2$ pot?

I mean: risky business those squeezes/bluffs w/o reads at 10NL.

[ben wb]

First time I've ever been in a hand I think, I was button in hand 1.

Obviously check hand 2, it looks like he has QT here and he won't fold that.

[Waingro]

1. Pf is really horrible at this level, there is absolutely no reason to think that button is "stealing", his button raising range after a limper probably murders 9To.

2. I like this one a little better but not much, mind you he is probably looking you up with a Q here or a fd, but not always. I´d probably raise a little more on the flop and check behind on turn.

Edit: I like raising the flop in hand 2. People absolutly love to donk the flop with missed unders and whatnot or small pockets to "find out where they´re at".

[Warteen]

You might have forgotten your 10 NL winning game, but it looks like you're betting with nothing a little too often. At uNL, playing straightforward (with a few wrinkles) is a very +EV game. Squeeze with 9To and raising with just a gutshot is pushing the range a little far IMO.

[mrpotto]

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GIven how hes played it I think he most likely has a Q here and if I bet in relation to pot hes instacalling me so a overbet semibluff push might be the best line here. Most 10nl players should be instafolding all non 2 pair hands, or am i wrong?

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OMG are you wrong. At this level not many get off top pair - even when they have no kicker. People at this level do not respect your raises. Yesterday at .1/.25 I raised on consecutive hands when I was CO and button. First hand was Kings which every folds. Next hand I get AQ and get two callers who were obviously thinking I couldn't have possibly gotten two good hands in a row. Flop was A, x, x rainbow and I stacked someone who called all the way down with A-2. In chat right after, the villain stated, "I didn't respect your raise". Ha-ha.

I am not surprised by anything that makes it all the way to showdown at this level.

Agree with the poster who condones a starightforward game at this level. If you're patient, you'll get paid off when you have strong hands. Too many call stations out there to bluff EV+.

[thac]

I play both hand 1 and hand 2 EXACTLY the same.

[Vyse]

I had this problem -- I would overthink 10 NL and get pissed off that these donks would not fold when they should, and would go to the brink with TPWK because they think your big bets mean you have nothing.

It doesn't work here. It just doesn't. They're too stupid. You have to go down to their level. ABC poker is all you need. Very few moves on players.

[TheSalche]

You know how 100NL players sometimes multilevel think? 10NL players actually think in negative 1 or 2 level zone.

Big FPS here, you need to showdown to win hands. Wait till 25 or 50 to try this, and don't try anything fancy unless you have a read, otherwise you're spewing chips.