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Old 01-25-2007, 01:00 PM
jbird jbird is offline
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Default 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

...is this a fold? Villain in this hand would pot any flushdraw here as well as any A2, and like most villains on stars, assumes I have AA when I raise.


Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $200
UTG+1: $176
CO: $94.25
jbird: $243.15
SB: $536.70
BB: $142.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) jbird is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">jbird raises to $6</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $20</font>, jbird calls, SB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($60, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">jbird bets $57</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $228</font>
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Old 01-25-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

oops, cut off action, but BB folded.
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Old 01-25-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

uhhhhhhh, you got odds to call even if he does have the straight. Call and pray, the end.
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Old 01-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

Worst case you are 40/60ish; you have to call here.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

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...is this a fold? Villain in this hand would pot any flushdraw here as well as any A2

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in that case this would be a tough call if you just had unimproved aces here, but it says you have a set.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:21 PM
grizy grizy is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

sidenote, you just called a reraise preflop, i for one would not put you on AA
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

OK probably being too results oriented here then, I got it all in and unimproved top set no good.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:45 PM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

Yeah, when you button raise and call a reraise, I really doubt villian's putting you on aces. You could mentally increase the chance that he has aces however, making something like AA2x more likely, and potentially opening up a lot of extra outs for you. This fact would probably be enough for me to push even if I had an extra $100 or so behind. Given stack sizes, this is an easy call. In order to get it in bad, you'd have to be against something ridiculous like 7c6c3x3x.

As a beginning player, I'd recommend that you regularly check an odds calculator like the one on CardPlayer when you play a big hand like this and aren't sure if you had the right odds to call. You can just enter your hand, villian's hand, and the flop, and see if you got it in good or bad. Obviously, there are more complicated situations based on ranges, etc., but for basic questions like this, it can be very helpful, and it will increase your understanding of the game.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

What about the call PF?

You are calling $20 with $26 in the pot. Do you think this is
right with this hand?

Jonathan
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: 1/2 plo, top set straight redraw but.....

Or he's calling 14 with 32 in the pot?
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