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Old 01-24-2007, 11:28 PM
KingOtter KingOtter is offline
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Default 4/180 - A badly played AK

No real info on MP1.. 16 hands and has only raised pre-flop once.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1455)
UTG+1 (t1320)
MP1 (t7665)
MP2 (t1600)
CO (t1605)
Hero (t2865)
SB (t2330)
BB (t760)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t30, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t170, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, MP1 calls t140

Flop: (t645) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets t210</font>, Hero calls t210, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Turn: (t1065) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">MP1 bets t210</font>, Hero calls t210

River: (t1485) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Regardless of if I won or lost, I should have raised this weak turn bet, right?

I'm having problems figuring out when someone is betting small to be called, and betting small to be weak.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: 4/180 - A badly played AK

You should have raised the weak flop bet to around 800-1000, the turn call was fine because the heart is a scare card in my book. And raise more preflop, you should have made it 300, not 200.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: 4/180 - A badly played AK

Push flop, push turn...push preflop? how did i do shaundeeb?

The pot is nearly 1/3rd of your stack on the flop, I push here 100% of the time.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: 4/180 - A badly played AK

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You should have raised the weak flop bet to around 500-600, the turn call was fine because the heart is a scare card in my book. And raise more preflop, you should have made it 300, not 200.

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Raising to 600 doesn't accomplish anything. There's still two people in the hand and you're giving them better than 3 to 1.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 - A badly played AK

Isn't the goal to get your opponent to make a bad call rather than to make them fold when you have the best of it?
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 - A badly played AK

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Isn't the goal to get your opponent to make a bad call rather than to make them fold when you have the best of it?

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This is a tournament not a cash game, I want the chips and I want them on the flop. Also, why limit their mistake to 400 or 600 chips when they'll make a more expensive mistake when you raise more.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 - A badly played AK

Changed my post because I agree with you...to an extent
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 - A badly played AK

Thanks for the input.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: 4/180 - A badly played AK

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Isn't the goal to get your opponent to make a bad call rather than to make them fold when you have the best of it?

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This is a tournament not a cash game, I want the chips and I want them on the flop. Also, why limit their mistake to 400 or 600 chips when they'll make a more expensive mistake when you raise more.

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this is dumb. ev is ev.

also, raise flop and get all-in somehow.
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