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Old 01-24-2007, 11:16 PM
CaucasianAsian29 CaucasianAsian29 is offline
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Default NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

I honestly don't really know what to do in these spots. Get
all in on flop, standard 3 bet,or call and push on turn? Is standard to 3-bet if there's a drawy board, and call on flop without?

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NL $100 Texas Hold'em (No Limit)

Note: seat IDs range from 1 to 6

Seat 2 (playing) : Player 2, amount $91.70
Seat 4 (playing) : Hero, amount $158.80


** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to Hero: [2c, 2s]
Hero: Raise ($4)

Player 5: Fold
Player 6: Call ($4)
Player 1: Fold
Player 2: Call ($3.50)
Player 3: Fold

** Dealing Flop **
Community cards: [2d, Kc, Jh]
Player 2: Check ($0)
Hero: Bet ($10)
Player 6: Fold
Player 2: Raise ($20)
Hero: Pushes All In
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

With position in this hand and considering villians stack i am happy to call this bet with the intention of raising the turn. Pushing flop as you have gives hands like KQ a chance to get away from the hand and on a board where you are really only afraid of QT as a draw i am happy to give him some rope and let him hang himself. If the board contained a flush draw i dont mind your push as much.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

sounds good, any others? are hands like Q,10 likely here enough to 3 bet on flop?

Also, does my manual convert suck? any better ways of doing it?
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:49 AM
ZingyDNA ZingyDNA is offline
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

I don't think a push is bad unless you have a very tight image.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

I bet you he has KJ (any K if he's an idiot). Good shove; if he's making this donk raise on flop I could c him being the kind of player calling with any K. NH. Who doesn't reraise preflop JJ or KK? You're ahead 99.9999% of the time.
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Old 01-25-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

Yes i think you are never behind here and that is not my concern. my concern is getting as much value as possible out of the hand if he has a lone king and pushing gives him every chance to get away. After calling turn and letting him bet turn he will then be commiteed to calling a turn push with more than half his stack in the pot.
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Old 01-25-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

I'm not scared of being behind, I just wanna know what the best line to get all the money in is, with taking minimal risk against draws. Thanks for the replys.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

$87 left in effective stacks and a PSR is to $71 - generally when I make a re-raise it's less than a PSR, and that would especially be the case with a set when I want action. If the dude is check-minraising you he probably isn't that good to begin with, I'm okay with making it $45-$50 and getting the rest in on any turn. Calling and shoving turn (assuming he leads, or making a 3/4-ish PSB if he checks) is okay as well.
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

NOOOOOOOOOOOO RAISE TURN ALL-IN OR MAKE SMALLER RAISE WHY LET HIM SAY 'OMH HE HANS 222 I FOLDSZ
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: NL$100, Trip 2\'s Push on flop?

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$87 left in effective stacks and a PSR is to $71 - generally when I make a re-raise it's less than a PSR, and that would especially be the case with a set when I want action. If the dude is check-minraising you he probably isn't that good to begin with, I'm okay with making it $45-$50 and getting the rest in on any turn. Calling and shoving turn (assuming he leads, or making a 3/4-ish PSB if he checks) is okay as well.

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ahh, my first lesson. Thank you. Good advice, pushing was not the best line here. Thanks for replys
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