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Old 02-08-2006, 05:07 AM
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sorted by cents per hand<ul type="square">
# hands ... Bonus ... Cents/hand
38900 … $1025.00… 0.026349614
13500 … $..365.00… 0.027037037
40490 … $1120.00… 0.027661151
.9320 … $..270.00… 0.028969957
13875 … $..405.00… 0.029189189
.
22900 … $765.00 … 0.033406114
13320 … $450.00 … 0.033783784
19450 … $680.00 … 0.03496144
.
13005 … $525.00 … 0.040369089
13005 … $525.00 … 0.040369089
11000 … $500.00 … 0.045454545
..4575 … $210.00 … 0.045901639
..1960 … $..90.00… 0.045918367
..2300 … $110.00 … 0.047826087
.
..1260 … $..65.00… 0.051587302
..5430 … $.285.00… 0.052486188
10575 … $.580.00… 0.054846336
..6115 … $.340.00… 0.055600981
..2155 … $.120.00… 0.055684455
27120 … $1530.00. 0.056415929
.
1010 … $..65.00… 0.064356436
7490 … $500.00 … 0.066755674
4010 … $270.00 … 0.067331671
4010 … $270.00 … 0.067331671
5565 … $375.00 … 0.067385445
1475 … $100.00 … 0.06779661
1815 … $130.00 … 0.071625344
2315 … $170.00 … 0.073434125
.
3000 … $250.00 … 0.083333333
1965 … $165.00 … 0.083969466
1035 … $..90.00… 0.086956522
1300 … $115.00 … 0.088461538
1410 … $130.00 … 0.092198582
2920 … $330.00 … 0.113013699
2695 … $315.00 … 0.116883117[/list]

sorted by number of hands
<ul type="square">

# hands … Bonus … Cents/hand
1010 … $..65.00… 0.064356436
1035 … $..90.00… 0.086956522
1260 … $..65.00… 0.051587302
1300 … $115.00 … 0.088461538
1410 … $130.00 … 0.092198582
1475 … $100.00 … 0.06779661
1815 … $130.00 … 0.071625344
1960 … $..90.00… 0.045918367
1965 … $165.00 … 0.083969466
.. .. .. .. ..
2155 … $120.00 … 0.055684455
2300 … $110.00 … 0.047826087
2315 … $170.00 … 0.073434125
2695 … $315.00 … 0.116883117
2920 … $330.00 … 0.113013699
3000 … $250.00 … 0.083333333
… … … … …
4010 … $270.00 … 0.067331671
4010 … $270.00 … 0.067331671
4575 … $210.00 … 0.045901639
5430 … $285.00 … 0.052486188
5565 … $375.00 … 0.067385445
6115 … $340.00 … 0.055600981
7490 … $500.00 … 0.066755674
9320 … $270.00 … 0.028969957
… … … … …
10575 … $580.00 … 0.054846336
11000 … $500.00 … 0.045454545
13005 … $525.00 … 0.040369089
13005 … $525.00 … 0.040369089
13320 … $450.00 … 0.033783784
13500 … $365.00 … 0.027037037
13875 … $405.00 … 0.029189189
19450 … $680.00 … 0.03496144
… … … … …
22900 … $.765.00… 0.033406114
27120 … $1530.00… 0.056415929
38900 … $1025.00… 0.026349614
40490 … $1120.00… 0.027661151
# hands … Bonus … Cents/hand[/list]
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Old 02-08-2006, 05:46 AM
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5565 … $375.00 … 0.067385445

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mine.
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Old 02-08-2006, 06:04 AM
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Hard to determine a universal cents per hand formua when hands are worth different point values at different limits
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Old 02-08-2006, 06:08 AM
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Party's point values do, however, bear a rational relationship to total raked hand percentages at different limits
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Old 02-08-2006, 10:20 AM
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yes, you are right...but i was looking to see if there were major gaps that would be indicating the difference between Blue and Silver and Gold.

I didn't mean cents per hand, but relationship to dollars and points.
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Old 02-08-2006, 10:43 AM
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So bottom line it's a rake-back program, that pays two and a half to twelve cents per hand, on a site that charges an average rake of twenty to thirty cents per hand (for mid- and high-limit players), and up to fifty cents per hand (for 6-max).

Is that about right?

If you're wondering why some folks got better offers, I suspect it's because of where you play - 10/20 6-max, for example, vs. 3/6 full.
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Old 02-08-2006, 10:58 AM
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yes, you are right...but i was looking to see if there were major gaps that would be indicating the difference between Blue and Silver and Gold.

I didn't mean cents per hand, but relationship to dollars and points.

[/ QUOTE ]


This is interesting stuff and thanks for doing this.

But I don't see how you are looking at blue, silver and gold since they aren't listed in your charts.

For example, mine (13005 pts for $525) is not changed in your chart even though I am gold.


At 3/6 full, gold I am estimating for me it's 4.7 cents per raked-hand....which is 2.6 cents per hand (since 55% are raked).
But it is correct that I am getting about 4 cents per point.
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Old 02-08-2006, 11:06 AM
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i was hoping some of the people would supply information. it took so long to get the list formatted decenlty that i kind of gave up before I got around to some of the other things i wanted to know.

if no limit players, and hi or low limit players and blue and silver and gold players can identify in one post...in other words, just add your information to the post previously, it will be easier to tabulate.Don't do quotes, and don't post any extra information...just

points, dollars, blue/silver/gold and most frequent game.

2315,$170,blue, 1020 limit
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Old 02-08-2006, 11:06 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
sorted by cents per hand<ul type="square">
# hands ... Bonus ... Cents/hand
38900 … $1025.00… 0.026349614
13500 … $..365.00… 0.027037037
40490 … $1120.00… 0.027661151
.9320 … $..270.00… 0.028969957
13875 … $..405.00… 0.029189189
.
22900 … $765.00 … 0.033406114
13320 … $450.00 … 0.033783784
19450 … $680.00 … 0.03496144
.
13005 … $525.00 … 0.040369089
13005 … $525.00 … 0.040369089
11000 … $500.00 … 0.045454545
..4575 … $210.00 … 0.045901639
..1960 … $..90.00… 0.045918367
..2300 … $110.00 … 0.047826087
.
..1260 … $..65.00… 0.051587302
..5430 … $.285.00… 0.052486188
10575 … $.580.00… 0.054846336
..6115 … $.340.00… 0.055600981
..2155 … $.120.00… 0.055684455
27120 … $1530.00. 0.056415929
.
1010 … $..65.00… 0.064356436
7490 … $500.00 … 0.066755674
4010 … $270.00 … 0.067331671
4010 … $270.00 … 0.067331671
5565 … $375.00 … 0.067385445
1475 … $100.00 … 0.06779661
1815 … $130.00 … 0.071625344
2315 … $170.00 … 0.073434125
.
3000 … $250.00 … 0.083333333
1965 … $165.00 … 0.083969466
1035 … $..90.00… 0.086956522
1300 … $115.00 … 0.088461538
1410 … $130.00 … 0.092198582
2920 … $330.00 … 0.113013699
2695 … $315.00 … 0.116883117[/list]

sorted by number of hands
<ul type="square">

# hands … Bonus … Cents/hand
1010 … $..65.00… 0.064356436
1035 … $..90.00… 0.086956522
1260 … $..65.00… 0.051587302
1300 … $115.00 … 0.088461538
1410 … $130.00 … 0.092198582
1475 … $100.00 … 0.06779661
1815 … $130.00 … 0.071625344
1960 … $..90.00… 0.045918367
1965 … $165.00 … 0.083969466
.. .. .. .. ..
2155 … $120.00 … 0.055684455
2300 … $110.00 … 0.047826087
2315 … $170.00 … 0.073434125
2695 … $315.00 … 0.116883117
2920 … $330.00 … 0.113013699
3000 … $250.00 … 0.083333333
… … … … …
4010 … $270.00 … 0.067331671
4010 … $270.00 … 0.067331671
4575 … $210.00 … 0.045901639
5430 … $285.00 … 0.052486188
5565 … $375.00 … 0.067385445
6115 … $340.00 … 0.055600981
7490 … $500.00 … 0.066755674
9320 … $270.00 … 0.028969957
… … … … …
10575 … $580.00 … 0.054846336
11000 … $500.00 … 0.045454545
13005 … $525.00 … 0.040369089
13005 … $525.00 … 0.040369089
13320 … $450.00 … 0.033783784
13500 … $365.00 … 0.027037037
13875 … $405.00 … 0.029189189
19450 … $680.00 … 0.03496144
… … … … …
22900 … $.765.00… 0.033406114
27120 … $1530.00… 0.056415929
38900 … $1025.00… 0.026349614
40490 … $1120.00… 0.027661151
# hands … Bonus … Cents/hand[/list]
[/ QUOTE ]

This really makes no sense without knowing if a person is silver or gold. I have a friend who is silver who got 10K points for 465. I am gold and got 15K points for 490. Basically the same deal though because I acrue points 50% faster.

Krishan
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Old 02-08-2006, 11:20 AM
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okay. good idea.


13005, $525, gold, limit (3/6, 5/10, full and 6-max)


In another thread I figured out mine to be about 21% rake-back on the 3/6 full tables (about 15% on 6-max)
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