Queens with Ace on flop. Can I call allin?

[ValarMorghulis]

Villain is 17/15/2.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($233.85)
Button ($509.15)
SB ($135.02)
Hero ($177)
UTG ($222.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $23</font>, MP calls $17.

Flop: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32.

Turn: ($115) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $120</font>

[DaCooler]

EZ FOLD

[nowags]

Can you call all-in? Sure!

Should you? No.

[ValarMorghulis]

By c/calling this flop am I telling villain that he can have the pot with a second barrel? Shouldn't I call some of the time?

[Marwan]

players are really not that good to 2nd barrel you w/o an ace, he's betting an ace like always here.. I think i'd actually fold the flop cuz I have no plan for the turn and it seems like villain has an ace with his tight statistics.

[Mossberg]

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By c/calling this flop am I telling villain that he can have the pot with a second barrel? Shouldn't I call some of the time?

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You have to understand that he is going to be scared of the ace if he doesn't have it. A guy with these stats is never going to be ballsy enough to fire 2 here. Super easy fold yo.

[limon]

why did you ck the flop? this is a good place to make a tiny c bet and rep. a monster. your protected by that flop. if you gat called or raised its an instamuck.

[Redd]

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why did you ck the flop? this is a good place to make a tiny c bet and rep. a monster. your protected by that flop. if you gat called or raised its an instamuck.

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Limon,

What better hands are you hoping to fold with a little bet on the flop? I can only see KK folding and that would have usually RRed pf, no?

[willw9]

If we check and are bet into, are we assuming (by his low AF) that he has an A here 100% of the time?

I like b/f here. You rr'd pre, take the intiative and cbet. If called or raise, fold/checkfold

[poppingit]

The main reason to bet this flop is to protect yourself from getting pushed off the best hand and not to fold out better hands. If you bet out villian will give up unless he has you beat. So if we had bet out 32 on the flop and he called or raised we could fold our queens and be 100% certain that we are beat. By check calling like this we have still put our 32 in the pot and we still have no idea if this guy is making a move on us. unless you are prepared to check fold flop against this type of player then betting out is always best to avoid this guessing game.

As played it is an easy fold but i hate this line of check calling even against this guy.