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Old 01-19-2007, 01:32 PM
Kristian Kristian is offline
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Default 400NL: Bow down to my JJ pls

Villain is 33/27/4 multitabler. He is not very good, I have seen him make a few big mistakes, but I can't put him on a specific weakness.

Do I freeze op now? What if turn is blank?

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BB ($489)
UTG ($905.92)
MP ($420.90)
CO ($629.90)
Button ($400)
Hero ($406)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $55</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $41.

Flop: ($114) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $80</font>, CO calls $80.

Turn: ($274) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: Bow down to my JJ pls

check and then raise awwww eeeeeennn
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: Bow down to my JJ pls

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check and then raise awwww eeeeeennn

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You mean check and then call.
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: Bow down to my JJ pls

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check and then raise awwww eeeeeennn

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You mean check and then call.

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stack sizes.. unless my math is bad, I expect him to bet about half your stack... and thats where I switch from "well what hands does he call with that are worse" to.. "so much scrilla in the pot I gotta push now.
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: Bow down to my JJ pls

I guess you can call if he best something smallish like 110
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Old 01-19-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: Bow down to my JJ pls

I check the flop and let him have 2 stabs at it

most people cant help themselves and you dont get blown off your hand
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Old 01-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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I check the flop and let him have 2 stabs at it

most people cant help themselves and you dont get blown off your hand

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I would very rarely check this flop with JJ. Way too good of a flop for us.
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Old 01-19-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: Bow down to my JJ pls

betting accomplishes nothing, you're folding all worse holdings unless he's realllly stubborn, so c/c or c/r seems to be the way to go. Or if you really just think this seems like a spot where you're behind (because you're really only ahead of 99 or something completely retarded) you could c/f.
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Old 01-19-2007, 06:35 PM
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betting accomplishes nothing, you're folding all worse holdings unless he's realllly stubborn, so c/c or c/r seems to be the way to go. Or if you really just think this seems like a spot where you're behind (because you're really only ahead of 99 or something completely retarded) you could c/f.

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c/c on this turn means you have to be money on the river as far as calling/folding frequencies if you want to see a profit long-term.
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Old 01-19-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: Bow down to my JJ pls

Checking is definitely best as a start. Depending on the opponent, I don't think folding is out of the question if he bets something sizeable. That is a big preflop reraise and it all comes down to the parlay of his calling range there including hands like 44, 55, 66, or ATs plus his willingness to bet those hands hard on the turn into a board that is not bad for your 3-betting range. Otherwise you are [censored] against his range if he bets the turn sizeably.

For that parlay to come through, he basically has to be an overly aggro moran, which could be the case for all I know.
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