$25NL 6-max QQ... When to fold?

eracer325 · #1 01-18-2007, 05:04 PM

The player behind me seems pretty good, however he is able to make some plays. I didn't think he had Ks or As because I was pretty sure that if he did have that, he would reraise me pf. Given that, how do you guys think I should play this hand.

What if I don't have any read on the player, how should I proceed?

Here's why I played the hand this way at the time. I made a stardard pfr then cbet on the flop whether I have a hand or not. The button just flat called me so I put him on a middle pair or ak, aj. 2 came on the turn, I definitely not worry about him made a str8, however there are too many draws on the board if he holds Ax or 66 or 4 card flush. So I bet out again, then he reraised me. At that point, I thought

1. he might be making a move on me with pure bluff. (He has done that a few times before this hand. )

2. It was a semi-bluff for his drawing hand. Therefore I called the turn raise.

On the river, he instantly shoved, so I thought he was on a total bluff or holding a very strong hand like fh because I think he planned to move all in no matter what the river comes when I called the turn raise. I didnt know what to do on the river and I called it thinking the overbet has a higher percetage of being a bluff since I just flat called the turn raise.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($13.75)
UTG ($5.30)
MP ($5.60)
Hero ($47.90)
Button ($39.80)
SB ($29.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, BB folds.

Turn: ($7.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4.5, Button raises to $11.5, Hero calls $7.

River: ($30.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $25.3 (All-In), Hero calls $25.30.

Final Pot: $80.70

jk3a · #2 01-18-2007, 05:06 PM

pot the flop. As played, calling the turn is ok, but I wouldn't have called that river or many rivers if he were to push. What do you beat?

Warteen · #3 01-18-2007, 05:12 PM

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pot the flop. As played, calling the turn is ok, but I wouldn't have called that river or many rivers if he were to push. What do you beat?

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33, 66, 77, 88, 99, JJ, AK, AQ, AJ, AT, any two random cards without a 5 in 'em wanting to make a play here (that aren't diamonds). This guy is assuming you have nothing on this dry board and betting accordingly. I call the shove.

Thrahl · #4 01-18-2007, 05:16 PM

I fold this river. I wouldnt be surprised to get shown 222,or 444 here.

eracer325 · #5 01-18-2007, 06:45 PM

What kind of hand do you think I'll need to call the river bet if I don't have much read on the player?

clearcut · #6 01-18-2007, 06:48 PM

I fold. A3 or the frush.

eracer325 · #7 01-18-2007, 07:00 PM

I was pretty sure he didn't have A3 or the flush. 1. He is a pretty decent player and I don't think he would call my pfr with A3. Maybe 78s but not A3. 2. He shoved on the river instantly so I didn't think he got the flush. I didn't really put him on a flush draw since the flop because I think he woulda raise me on the flop.

FalconTi0 · #8 01-18-2007, 07:13 PM

i have a question about hands kind of like this. would a small blocking bet on the river be an idea?

eracer325 · #9 01-18-2007, 07:27 PM

that was exactly what i was thinking when reviewing this hand. anyone got any suggestion?

hagel666 · #10 01-18-2007, 10:45 PM

Would guess 5X or 44 (or maybe some overpair), why c/c the flopbet? 44 is a typical c/c hand I think (and also a possible coldcall hand PF). And when he got the extra $4.5 he stopped slowplaying and then pushed the river.

edited/added:
if blockbet as you call it then b/fold to his all-in I guess