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Old 01-18-2007, 09:22 AM
Kristian Kristian is offline
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Default 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

SB is a donk, not worried about him. BB is tight preflop 17/9/3, plays a few tables and hasn't done anything stupid that I've seen, so that's about as scary a call as you will see.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($162.60)
BB ($363.60)
UTG ($155.03)
Hero ($394)
CO ($82)
Button ($403.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $14, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($48) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB calls $160.60 (All-In), BB calls $146.60, Hero...
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

fold it.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

fold. you might end up sick when you see the BB with AQ once every 3-4 times, but I don't think he has less than a set here very often. depending on your image, he might make looser calls pf with weaker Q's like QJ and QT, but calling that giant overbet shove is so scary. you've only put $16 in the pot, I don't see a reason to get all gambl-y with KK here.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

Ok, thanks guys, just needed to check, since he did show AQ after I folded, and I did indeed end up a bit sick about it.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:48 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

WTF CALL

and dont post results so soon seriously

think of it this way - if you were bb, what is sb's range? everything? good, QJs good (note discrepency between pfr and vpip)
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

I agree you posted results way too early.

In your spot i would just push, i would say chances are about 50/50 that BB has a set or only a Q but since SB already donated and probably has very little equity your push should be okay.

BTW - if i were BB i would call here with AQ 100% and QK a little bit more player dependent. Those shortstacks at Party are just that donkish that TPGK is mostly the nuts, what i would hate is having someone behind me and if he calls or even pushes.
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Old 01-18-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

you can't possibly fold KQ as BB for 30bb. no way.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

id say call &gt;&gt; push &gt;&gt; fold here.
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:00 PM
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you can consider folding if BB hammers the turn
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: 400NL: KK, pot just exploded

push
there is nothing extraordinary to make him think you have KK nor to think a slew of hands is not good vs an idiot short stack
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